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 Post subject: Things That Are Flawless & Very Good
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:49 am 
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The other thread made me wonder -- are there any works that aren't flawed? :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 10:51 am 
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Raiders of the Lost Ark is without flaw.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:24 am 
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Raiders has some cheesy special effects, and in the original you can see the reflection of the snake in the glass between it and Indy. But otherwise, it qualifies, even after they removed the scorch scene. ;)

Amazing Spider-Man 33 is flawless.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:43 am 
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 Post subject: Things That Are Flawless & Very Good
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:46 am 
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I dispute. It has one major clunker that causes the movie to not hold up through the ages -- the casting of Wiley Wiggins in the central role. Guy cannot act at all.

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Li'l Jay wrote:
RobertSwanderson wrote:
Dazed and Confused (Film)


I dispute. It has one major clunker that causes the movie to not hold up through the ages -- the casting of Wiley Wiggins in the central role. Guy cannot act at all.


He seemed out of place, socially awkward, and sometimes popular for no apparent reason. When I was a Sophomore going on Junior in the Summer of '76, I knew a dozen Wiley Wigginses.


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 Post subject: Things That Are Flawless & Very Good
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 11:54 am 
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RobertSwanderson wrote:
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Dazed and Confused (Film)


I dispute. It has one major clunker that causes the movie to not hold up through the ages -- the casting of Wiley Wiggins in the central role. Guy cannot act at all.


He seemed out of place, socially awkward, and sometimes popular for no apparent reason. When I was a Sophomore going on Junior in the Summer of '76, I knew a dozen Wiley Wigginses.


You're doing the "realistic, therefore good" avenue. What I'm saying is he's terrible and not a good performer. Drags it down. I love the movie in spite of his performance, and chalk it up to awkwardness. But he's the worst.

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Li'l Jay wrote:
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Dazed and Confused (Film)


I dispute. It has one major clunker that causes the movie to not hold up through the ages -- the casting of Wiley Wiggins in the central role. Guy cannot act at all.


He seemed out of place, socially awkward, and sometimes popular for no apparent reason. When I was a Sophomore going on Junior in the Summer of '76, I knew a dozen Wiley Wigginses.


You're doing the "realistic, therefore good" avenue. What I'm saying is he's terrible and not a good performer. Drags it down. I love the movie in spite of his performance, and chalk it up to awkwardness. But he's the worst.


What you didn't notice was that the movie was filled with bad actors winging it through realism. For every McConaughey and Rapp there was a Wiggins and Hinojosa. They grounded the movie and gave it a good portion of its realistic feel.


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RobertSwanderson wrote:
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Dazed and Confused (Film)


I dispute. It has one major clunker that causes the movie to not hold up through the ages -- the casting of Wiley Wiggins in the central role. Guy cannot act at all.


He seemed out of place, socially awkward, and sometimes popular for no apparent reason. When I was a Sophomore going on Junior in the Summer of '76, I knew a dozen Wiley Wigginses.


You're doing the "realistic, therefore good" avenue. What I'm saying is he's terrible and not a good performer. Drags it down. I love the movie in spite of his performance, and chalk it up to awkwardness. But he's the worst.


What you didn't notice was that the movie was filled with bad actors winging it through realism. For every McConaughey and Rapp there was a Wiggins and Hinojosa. They grounded the movie and gave it a good portion of its realistic feel.


I did notice it. Wiggins was just too bad to score the movie as "flawless." It's a noticeable weak point and has been discussed for ages.

<<hand moves over toward the "flawed but great" pile>>

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Says the guy who thinks that Raiders is flawless.


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Jeff wrote:
Raiders has some cheesy special effects, and in the original you can see the reflection of the snake in the glass between it and Indy.

Also, Indy riding the submarine. Also, this bit of logic.



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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Also, Indy riding the submarine.


That is a feature, not a bug.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 4:00 pm 
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Dave Miller wrote:
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The Third Man
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One of these features a Muppet in a serious role.


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RobertSwanderson wrote:
Dave Miller wrote:
Empire Strikes Back
The Third Man
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One of these features a Muppet in a serious role.

Dr. Teeth only played on one track and that's just a rumor anyway.

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RobertSwanderson wrote:
Dave Miller wrote:
Empire Strikes Back
The Third Man
Citizen Kane
Band of Outsiders
Dark Side of the Moon
Beggar's Banquet


One of these features a Muppet in a serious role.


So that is the only flawless thing on the list, is your point?

Sidebar, The Muppet Movie is without flaw.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2016 9:29 pm 
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I love Dark Side Of The Moon but "Us And Them" is a major wart on it. Its the only song off of it I skip.
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Jeff wrote:
Raiders has some cheesy special effects, and in the original you can see the reflection of the snake in the glass between it and Indy.

Also, Indy riding the submarine. Also, this bit of logic.


Except that if the group of nazis died checking out the ark (with no Indie around), then other nazis would have wondered why and gone in later to find out (or sent in some expendables). They still would have ended up with the weapon (instead of the good guys ending up with it).

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That's covered in the video.


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