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Norman Lear Sitcoms ‘All in the Family,’ ‘The Jeffersons’ Being Eyed by Sony for Reboots

Sony Pictures Television is in very early stages of rebooting several classic sitcoms from TV legend Norman Lear as miniseries — including “All in the Family,” “The Jeffersons,” and “Good Times” — Variety has learned exclusively.

The idea currently being discussed by Lear and Sony executives would be to have new actors recreate classic episodes of the shows, working from the original scripts, and package them as short, six-episode anthologies. The scripts would be treated similar to plays being mounted in new productions.

“There is some talk about doing some of the original shows, redoing them with today’s stars,” Lear told Variety. “There is a possibility that we’ll do ‘All in the Family,’ ‘Maude,’ ‘The Jeffersons,’ “Good Times.'”

Discussions about remaking more of Lear’s catalogue come as Sony gears up for the premiere of the new “One Day at a Time,” which re-imagines Lear’s ’80s sitcom about a single mother raising two children. The new series, which premieres on Netflix Jan. 6, focuses on a Latino family with a female Army veteran at its center.

Lear serves as executive producer on the new “One Day at a Time,” with original scripts coming from the show’s writing staff and showrunners Gloria Calderon-Kellett and Mike Royce, with contributions from Lear.

Sony has been in discussions with Lear about the miniseries-reboot concept since before development began on “One Day at a Time.” That series was developed specifically for Netflix, and was never shopped to other buyers. No network or streaming service is yet attached to the miniseries projects.

The miniseries project is a separate idea from the possible “All in the Family” reboot that Lear discussed two years ago at a Paley Center event, which would have seen the show revived with new characters, possibly Latino. That idea was set aside in favor of the new “One Day at a Time.”

“We’re exploring it,” Glenn Adilman, executive vice president of comedy development for Sony told Variety. “It’s sort of tricky to figure out what the business of that is and what that would be and how it would work. But its something we’re trying to figure out.”

Adilman added, “It’s tricky for a lot of reasons, and it’s something we’re exploring.”

Sony controls most of Lear’s TV library through its 1985 acquisition of the producer’s Embassy Communications.

http://www.variety.com/2016/tv/news/nor ... 1201944546

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Especially given that so many of today's programs make Lear's trademarked controversial subject matter look like "Sesame Street."

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Repackage old episodes and treat them like plays?
Well… why not? It's not like Hollywood isn't re-warming original movies three or four times already.

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But I'd rather that they CGI new episodes featuring the "original" casts.

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This is so stupid. Pardon my French.

I've lost a lot of respect for Hollywood and this is another nail. There's some shows that can't be redone. All In The Family is one of them. Carroll O'Conner is rolling in his grave.

What would be really nice is if they could do some cleaning up of the series and re-release them. The DVD's I have of AITF look abysmal. Maybe that's as best as they can do with them. I don't know.

Redoing movies is a waste of my time. Very rarely do they do some good with it (Night Of The Living Dead 1990).


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Given today's socio-political climate, you could do a sitcom with a politically incorrect, blue-collar schlub railing against how his world is changing.

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I came here to post "No One Day at a Time, no deal!" But it looks like they are doing that one first.

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I came here to post "No One Day at a Time, no deal!" But it looks like they are doing that one first.


You know, your sig line about comics being published for 45-year-olds suggests something about the intended audience for these revived shows. You'd have to be about that age to remember seeing those shows the first time around.

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I came here to post "No One Day at a Time, no deal!" But it looks like they are doing that one first.


You know, your sig line about comics being published for 45-year-olds suggests something about the intended audience for these revived shows. You'd have to be about that age to remember seeing those shows the first time around.

And you have to be just a little bit older still to have really gotten them the first time around. Being under 10 when most (all?) of those shows aired first didn't exactly put us in the intended audience. I know I couldn't have cared less about any of them. They weren't cartoons or the Six Million Dollar Man! :D


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They weren't cartoons or the Six Million Dollar Man! :D


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Li'l Jay wrote:
I came here to post "No One Day at a Time, no deal!" But it looks like they are doing that one first.


You know, your sig line about comics being published for 45-year-olds suggests something about the intended audience for these revived shows. You'd have to be about that age to remember seeing those shows the first time around.

Yeah, As a kid I grew up watching these shows. I didn't quite 'get' all of it, but I did like them. When I got older of course, I understood a lot more than I did originally. I think that was good as well. It showed me a whole other depth, that I didn't quite have a handle on, so I learned even more the second time around. (And thanks to syndication, the third fourth, fifth, sixth, etc etc!)


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Given today's socio-political climate, you could do a sitcom with a politically incorrect, blue-collar schlub railing against how his world is changing.

They probably won't, but you could.

This is the key problem.
In today's climate, you can't even have VILLAINS who subscribe to so-called taboo 'beliefs/morals' (people who are SUPPOSED to be evil.), without some group getting assblasted over it, and starting boycotts, and protests, and getting Tumblr and FaceBook all wound up like an over cranked clock; much less have a character who would be the "loveable but misguided schlub" that did likewise.
There's no way an Archie Bunker could exist today without there being such an uproar over it.

INB4 the 3 or 4 people chomping at the bit to start an argument over this, hop in and get offended over it. :roll:

And for what it's worth, this is a stupid idea, regardless if Lear is behind it or not. Now's not the time for it. These shows had their time, and it's over. Let them rest as the classics they are.


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I believe that "All In the Family" caught a lot of flak at the time. It's just that the ratings were good, so they kept going with it despite some people being out-of-joint over it.

I also seem to recall someone telling me that the network would try to threaten Lear to lighten up on the controversial content, but Lear just said, "If you try to change the show, I'll quit." So the network backed down. (Lear didn't really need the work, so the threats to quit weren't bluffs.)

Dunno if that's true. But that's what I heard on the streets.


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I came here to post "No One Day at a Time, no deal!" But it looks like they are doing that one first.


You know, your sig line about comics being published for 45-year-olds suggests something about the intended audience for these revived shows. You'd have to be about that age to remember seeing those shows the first time around.

And you have to be just a little bit older still to have really gotten them the first time around. Being under 10 when most (all?) of those shows aired first didn't exactly put us in the intended audience. I know I couldn't have cared less about any of them. They weren't cartoons or the Six Million Dollar Man! :D


I watched all of them because they hit syndication early in their runs, and then I would catch up and watch in first run. I would say I've seen every single episode of One Day at a Time, Alice, Good Times, and The Jeffersons. I did not watch Maude. I stopped watching All in the Family at some point after the kids left the house, so I didn't see them all.

There was a little something for all ages in most of them. But they did deal with adult themes. Alice did an episode on abortion, and that's how I learned what abortion was.

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Archie was supposed to be a bad guy. The close minded jerk. But Carroll O'Connor was so good that he made Archie a lovable multi-faceted character.

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Yeah, All In The Family wouldn't exist today. Too many would get "offended" at the reality of the human race. That show just showed what we're all like at some point or another.

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Archie was supposed to be a bad guy. The close minded jerk. But Carroll O'Connor was so good that he made Archie a lovable multi-faceted character.

O'Connor was quite the liberal. That's what made him a great actor..... that he could pull it off being 100% opposite of his beliefs. I don't subscribe to his ideology, but respected the man anyway.


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I incorporate by reference my oft-stated theory that whenever Hollywood tries to make a "conservative" caricature of some type, that character become's America's breakout favorite. It portrays Hollywood's misunderstanding of just how many of us blokes are out there. (Recent election and outcry is also a data point in this phenomenon).

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I incorporate by reference my oft-stated theory that whenever Hollywood tries to make a "conservative" caricature of some type, that character become's America's breakout favorite. It portrays Hollywood's misunderstanding of just how many of us blokes are out there. (Recent election and outcry is also a data point in this phenomenon).

Completely agree.

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Li'l Jay wrote:
I incorporate by reference my oft-stated theory that whenever Hollywood tries to make a "conservative" caricature of some type, that character become's America's breakout favorite. It portrays Hollywood's misunderstanding of just how many of us blokes are out there. (Recent election and outcry is also a data point in this phenomenon).

Completely agree.


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