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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2014 9:53 am 
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So far...

Arrow returning.
Agents of SHEILD returning.

Flash
Gotham
Constantine
Agent Carter
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Anything I'm missing?

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...and Beware the Batman... 2:00am on Adult Swim.


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Might check out Constantine. Though I've never read the comic, I still want to try and scrub away the image of Keanu Reeves playing the character.

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Mondays 8est/7cst: Gotham / FOX
Tuesdays 8est/7cst: Flash / CW
Tuesdays 9est/8cst: Agents of SHIELD / ABC
Wednesdays 8est/7cst: Arrow / CW
Fridays 10est/9cst: Constantine / NBC

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Agent Carter / ABC
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Dr. Fate would be great. And looking forward to Grodd.

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Rumors of Goyer pitching a "Krypton" series in the spirit of the Gotham series.

I don't see this one happening. Way too much of a budget needed and it would be Game of Thrones without the sex, violence, set in a futuristic society.


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I'm so put out with our current climate that every story has to be the "but where did he come from story." Part of the intrigue is wondering these things and piecing them together as you go along.

It's not as interesting to spend a long time on the "how did we get there" origins.

The last straw was the recent Dracula movie. Maybe the last straw. A middle straw in an avalanche of straws. Straws everywhere.

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The last straw was the recent Dracula movie.


It was much better than expected.


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The limits of buzz: How DC comics is winning its war with Marvel — on television

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Donal Logue in "Gotham;" Clark Gregg and Ming-Na Wen in "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." (Credit: Fox/ABC)

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Marvel Studios’ announcement this week about what we can expect for the next nine years generated a lot of excitement — and for good reason. Marvel is finally bringing a film about a female superhero to the silver screen with Captain Marvel, and a black superhero, with Chadwick Boseman as the Black Panther. Marvel knows how to create buzz and market its films — not just each individual one, but the whole collection of them. Each film lays groundwork for the next; each has inside jokes that only make sense if you’ve seen the previous. And audiences love it: A quick scan of the box office take for all of Marvel Studios’ films offers very, very big numbers. Maybe it’s not worth the hype, maybe the films could be better, maybe film franchises are destroying cinema. But it’s working.

It’s interesting, then, that Marvel’s success with film doesn’t translate to television. And I don’t mean that Marvel’s one television show airing right now — the awkwardly titled “Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.,” on ABC — is necessarily bad; it’s not great, but it’s fine. It’s more that DC, the Red Sox to Marvel’s Yankees, is absolutely killing it on television.

For starters, it just has more shows on air. “S.H.I.E.L.D.” will be joined in January by “Marvel’s Agent Carter,” a period show set during World War II starring Hayley Atwell as Peggy Carter, first seen in 2011’s “Captain America” as the girlfriend to the Captain himself. DC, meanwhile, has three shows airing right now, a fourth premiering on Friday, and two more in development. “Arrow,” which just started its third season, is the oldest of these — a scrappy show about a minor hero that has become a cult hit on the CW. Its success led to the same producers creating a spinoff, “The Flash,” on the same network. The Batman prequel series “Gotham” has a plum spot in Fox’s prime-time lineup, and last Friday, NBC premiered “Constantine,” based on DC/Vertigo’s “Hellblazer” comics.

And they’re all better than “S.H.I.E.L.D.” Prettier, riskier and more engaging.

DC and Marvel have been rival comic book companies for 50 years; they’ve had plenty of time to develop their strengths and weaknesses, even as they’ve also grown closer together. DC characters date back to the ‘30s, when comic-book storytelling was less about character development and more about epic storytelling. “The whole revolution of Marvel Comics in the ‘60s was that the characters were flawed human beings,” said David Sims, senior associate editor for the Atlantic (and my go-to friend for comic book geekery). “The DC characters tend to be more, like, totemic figures of justice and truth.”

Moreover, DC’s universe, as you probably already know, is entirely fictional; though Gotham City and Metropolis exist in America, and are sort of the split personalities of New York City, they aren’t, technically, the Big Apple. Which makes filming them a nightmare; Christopher Nolan used an amalgam of Pittsburgh, Chicago, London and New York for his “Dark Knight” films, for example.

And given that budgets are smaller for TV shows — meaning less time and resources for CGI, choreographed action sequences, stunt doubles, special effects, costly set pieces, and oh yeah, going to four different cities to shoot — it begins to be harder and harder to understand DC’s success. How do you bring totemic figures to the small screen, to the medium that made a name for itself by privileging moral ambiguity over moral absolutes? How do you afford to tell a superhero story with limited resources? Why is DC — the older company whose model is lagging behind Marvel’s — better at television?

At least one major reason is that the DC shows have found ways to make their constraints into assets. Precisely because they can’t rely on the location-establishing shots of real places, the DC shows occupy a fascinating and inviting space that’s part fact, part fiction. It’s not always easy to find shows on television where fantasy and reality happily coexist — not when almost everything is filmed in either Los Angeles or New York, because that’s cheapest for production studios. But Fox’s “Gotham” is a moody, dark cityscape, punctuated by crumbling grandeur and sheets of gray rain. And Starling City in “Arrow” is an urban playground, where protagonist Oliver Queen can scale buildings using just a bow and arrow before showing up to a board meeting in a suit and tie.

And because there isn’t a lot of money for CGI, “Arrow” and “The Flash,” in particular (both helmed by Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg), have invested instead in color, direction and editing — creating a world with a distinct style. Which is particularly wonderful for an adaptation of a comic book: As Mo Ryan at the Huffington Post pointed out last year when writing about “Arrow,” “It’s impossible to overstate how important it is for a drama derived from the world of comic books to have confident and distinctive direction and editing. Any story with roots in such a gloriously visual medium should look great, damn it.” Every DC show has a deliberate color palette and atmosphere it’s creating: “Constantine” is a lot of murky blacks and grays, with protagonist John Constantine’s (Matt Ryan) hair as the single point of light in an otherwise inhospitable world. “Gotham” is gothic-noir, which particularly comes out in the careful costuming (which uses fishnets, leather and button-down suits with equal enthusiasm). The world of “The Flash” is brightly lit and dynamic, reflecting both its main character’s superpowers and that the show is about teens, aimed at teens.

Plus, the lack of bells and whistles means that the shows pivot on the strength of their performances. Stephen Arnell in “Arrow” maintains a quiet presence that makes the mask and uniform seem unnecessary (certainly, fans — and Felicity — would rather see Oliver shirtless). And that show has maintained three seasons of drama by cleaving to the basic human interactions between its three main characters: Oliver, Felicity and John Diggle. “Gotham,” meanwhile, has eschewed the constraints of depicting Batman by dialing back the clock to about a decade before he becomes a superhero. Instead of the Batmobile and the Bat signal, we have a young Bruce Wayne sitting by the fire and Detective Gordon surviving his workaday life, which is considerably less splashy.

Meanwhile, the most notable thing about “S.H.I.E.L.D.” is that it lacks all of this — a distinct visual language, an investment in character, and a compelling, immersive fantasy world. No matter how interesting or engaging the Marvel universe is on the big screen, somehow on television it loses all of its magic. “S.H.I.E.L.D.” looks and feels like a procedural, even if its second season is a marked improvement on the first. The show has some spark, some verve, but not enough to go around. Whereas the DC shows — most obviously, “Arrow” — have fans on their own merits, it’s hard to imagine that “S.H.I.E.L.D.’s” viewers are fans of the show instead of the entire Marvel universe.

“S.H.I.E.L.D.’s” problems are likely the Marvel films’ strengths. After all, the ABC show exists almost primarily as a tie-in to the films — the same actors play the same characters across the universe, so Nick Fury is played by Samuel L. Jackson in both “The Avengers” and “S.H.I.E.L.D.” Vox’s culture editor Todd VanDerWerff wrote a great piece yesterday on the Marvel franchise, and I quote: “What Marvel, especially, is very good at doing is churning out product and keeping it just enough above the quality line that we’ll go back for more. That list of films above might as well be a list of fast-food hamburgers we’ll be eating for the rest of the decade.”

If Marvel’s films are hamburgers, “S.H.I.E.L.D.’s” every episode is one single French fry. It’s just enough to keep you going back for more, and because Marvel has such a unified, coherent vision for the next decade or two, that’s all every episode needs to be. Meanwhile, DC isn’t unified in the slightest — the company’s vision is half-baked at best, and while some of their film efforts have been wildly successful, others have been flops. It’s probably hideously disorganized, but it appears to offer the creators a little more creative freedom.

Or perhaps it’s much simpler than that. Serialization, as Sims pointed out to me, is a fundamental part of comic-book storytelling. Each issue is a chapter; and every month, there’s a new installment in a story that sometimes stretches back decades. Marvel’s strategy is to offer an installment in blockbuster form, every few months. The DC shows on their various networks are offering something weekly — and right now, you can follow four different stories, weekly. Marvel might be making money hand over fist, but DC’s got more of a bead on what makes comics comics.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 8:55 am 
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Flash may be aimed at teens, but it's not "about" teens, as the article claims. They probably didn't even watch it. The fact that SHIELD lacks the magic of the Marvel movies is hardly surprising, to me. Of course it does; there are no superheroes in it. It's like going to a space launch and watching the janitor clean the bathroom.


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"Winning a war on television" these days is like being the tallest midget.


And it's easy to win a war when the other side is half-assing it.

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TV superheroes: A new set of larger-than-life figures

It's a golden age for superheroes on TV.

With the cinematic adventures of Iron Man and Batman boasting boffo box-office numbers in recent years, those holding out for a small-screen hero have had their prayers answered this fall, with four out of five weeknights boasting at least one series based on a comic book.

Folks are watching, too: The Flash was The CW's top-rated premiere in its eight-year history, and the Gothampilot was one of Fox's highest-rated dramas.

With CW's iZombie, ABC's Agent Carter and Netflix's Daredevil arriving in 2015 — and Supergirl and Titans among those in development — it doesn't look like they're going away anytime soon. "As long as everything finds its own niche ... and we don't get repetitive, there's room for everything," says The Flash executive producer Geoff Johns.

USA TODAY looks at some of the most notable players to arrive out of the current crop of comic shows:

MVP: Oliver Queen
With three seasons in his quiver, CW's Arrow star Stephen Amell is pretty much the old veteran of comic-book shows. He's also the standard-bearer, bringing old-fashioned earnest heroism and a lot of brooding to the Green Arrow legacy. (His CW-ready good looks and abs of steel don't hurt either when it comes to his growing, loyal fan base.)


Most likely to succeed: The Penguin
Anybody who's familiar with Batman comics knows the Penguin as one of the Dark Knight's archest of enemies. Although we don't see him as full-on crime lord yet, the waddling, emo-haired henchman played by Robin Lord Taylor in Fox's Gotham exhibits the underhanded nature, ruthless vengeance and self-centered resolve needed to be the big bird of Gotham City.

Best chance of being in a movie: Mockingbird
As soon as she whipped out her twin staves in a recent episode, the addition of Adrianne Palicki's Bobbi Morse immediately made ABC's Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. a much more butt-kicking show. Could bigger things be in store? Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) came to the small screen from The Avengers film, and Mockingbird could go the other way if the Marvel movies embrace comics' love affair between her and Avengers archer Hawkeye.

Biggest jerk: John Constantine
He curses, drinks and smokes a bunch — and the antihero exorcist and supernatural investigator might be the one man who can keep Earth from becoming a living hell. Matt Ryan plays the trenchcoat-clad Brit in NBC's Constantine as close as anyone has to the guy from the Hellblazer comics, with Sex Pistols punk spirit and an anarchic style so infectious even the queen could love him, if not a horde of demons.


Rookie of the year: The Flash
Grant Gustin's Barry Allen has fast become a favorite superhero. Not as dark as his Arrow pal, the Scarlet Speedster brings a sense of fun as well as passion to CW's The Flash. He wears a smile when helping his S.T.A.R. Labs crew track down meta-humans like him, but he also fosters a tragic sense of purpose, trying to solve his mother's mysterious death and clear his devoted dad of the heinous crime.

Worst hero: Agent Ward
Brett Dalton's icy S.H.I.E.L.D. character was never the most lovable, even when he was running with the good guys. And he became the dude fans loved to hate — and one the show's haters despised even more — when he was exposed as a member of the evil organization Hydra last season. Now sporting a beard and on the loose, Ward may now be more dangerous than ever.

Top sidekick: John Diggle
David Ramsey's tough guy is probably the only person on Arrow with bigger biceps than Stephen Amell. While the bow-wielding member of this dynamic duo has always been the star of the show, Diggle has come into his own, evolving from Oliver Queen's bodyguard into a trusted confidante, Suicide Squad member (when need be) and loving new dad.

Most anticipated: Peggy Carter
Hayley Atwell's 1940s secret agent busted through the Marvel Universe's glass ceiling in the first Captain America movie and her own short film, a template for her own Agent Carter TV show premiering in midseason. As one of the founders of S.H.I.E.L.D., she kicks bad guys through windows, hangs with the Howling Commandos and doesn't conform when "the Man" tries to keep her down, be it Hydra or her own superiors.

Best use of superpower: Captain Cold
Until Mister Freeze arrives in Gotham, Wentworth Miller's cold customer on The Flash is the coolest villain on TV. One of the first of Flash's infamous Rogues to appear, he wields a neato cold gun to rob banks and check off other things on his nefarious to-do list. Plus: Like the comics, Cold isn't afraid to make a parka supervillain chic.


Most watchable cop: Harvey Bullock
Let's be honest: Donal Logue's scruffy Gotham detective isn't the shining light of law enforcement — he has been known to deal with underworld crime bosses, sometimes shows up to a shift inebriated, and will avoid police work if it means he might miss a hamburger on his lunch break. But he's fun to watch, lightens the mood, and the city might need his questionable code of ethics if and when the Joker shows up.




Where to find them:

Gotham (Fox, Mondays, 8 p.m. ET/PT)

Arrow (CW, Wednesdays 8 ET/PT)

The Flash (CW, Tuesdays 8 ET/PT)

Constantine (NBC, Fridays 10 ET/PT)

Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. (ABC, Tuesdays, 9 ET/PT)

Agent Carter (ABC, early 2015)

Marvel's Daredevil (Netflix, 2015)

iZombie (CW, early 2015)


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:57 am 
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Hearing that Mockingbird is appearing on "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." almost makes me want to check it out. I liked her character back in the day, because she had to wear corrective lenses. It was nice to think that having bad eyesight didn't disqualify you from being a superhero.

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Hearing that Mockingbird is appearing on "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." almost makes me want to check it out. I liked her character back in the day, because she had to wear corrective lenses. It was nice to think that having bad eyesight didn't disqualify you from being a superhero.


During her fight sequences they play the James Taylor / Carly Simon song. It's quite entertaining.


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