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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2014 5:53 pm 
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I have been reading Flash Gordon. I came across this panel, from a strip from June 6, 1937. Knowing the propensity to swipe from other comics that plagued the early Batman, do you think this is the inspiration for Robin's costume?

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For the record, the origin of Robin is claimed to be this:

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About a year after Batman's debut, Batman creators Bob Kane and Bill Finger, along with inker/later ghost artist Jerry Robinson, introduced Robin the Boy Wonder in Detective Comics #38 (1940).

The name "Robin the Boy Wonder" and the medieval look of the original costume were inspired by the Errol Flynn movie The Adventures of Robin Hood.[2] Later re-tellings of Robin's origin have instead often said the name comes from the robin bird, not Robin Hood.


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About a year after Batman's debut, Batman creators Bob Kane and Bill Finger introduced Robin the Boy Wonder in Detective Comics #38 (1940). The name "Robin the Boy Wonder" and the medieval look of the original costume were inspired by The Adventures of Robin Hood. Robinson noted he "came up with Robin Hood because The Adventures of Robin Hood were boyhood favorites of mine. I had been given a Robin Hood book illustrated by N. C. Wyeth ... and that's what I quickly sketched out when I suggested the name Robin Hood, which they seemed to like, and then showed them the costume. And if you look at it, it's Wyeth's costume, from my memory, because I didn't have the book to look at."[3] (Some later accounts of Robin's origin have stated that the name comes from the American robin bird, not from Robin Hood,[4] Frank Miller's All Star Batman and Robin being a notable exception. Sometimes both sources are credited, as in Len Wein's The Untold Legend of the Batman.) Although Robin is best known as Batman's sidekick, the Robins have also been members of the superhero group the Teen Titans - with the original Robin, Dick Grayson, as a founding member and the group's leader and with Tim Drake as the team leader as of 2012.

In Batman stories the character of Robin was intended to be the Batman's Watson: Bill Finger, writer for many early Batman adventures, wrote:

"Robin was an outgrowth of a conversation I had with Bob. As I said, Batman was a combination of Douglas Fairbanks and Sherlock Holmes. Holmes had his Watson. The thing that bothered me was that Batman didn't have anyone to talk to, and it got a little tiresome always having him thinking. I found that as I went along Batman needed a Watson to talk to. That's how Robin came to be. Bob called me over and said he was going to put a boy in the strip to identify with Batman. I thought it was a great idea."


It is not as if they didn't know about Flash Gordon, either:

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Kane’s famous cover for Detective Comics #27 was a direct swipe from an Alex Raymond Flash Gordon drawing.


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Certainly looks like it to me

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Certainly looks like it to me

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Certainly looks like it to Gerry.

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Yeah, that looks right on. Funny that they put full pants on a woman and decided to turn it into short shorts for the dude.

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Jerry Robinson wouldn't know. Bob Kane created Robin complete out of whole cloth.

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I did a Google search and Doc Shaner who currently draws Flash Gordon also had the same thought.

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I'd rather see her in the short shorts.

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I'd rather see Evan Shaner in the short shorts.

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Yes. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Kane copied Flash Gordon for his original design for Batman, so it stands to reason that he would do the same for Robin.

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RobertSwanderson wrote:
I want to know what happens with the Ape Raiders.


This was my first thought as well.

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