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 Post subject: Spider-Man: Which comics define him to you?
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:16 pm 
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For me, the ones that stick out are the issue where the Beyonder turned the Heroes for Hire building into gold and Peter was torturing himself over keeping a gold clipboard or something (guest starring Duke from GI Joe..or someone who looked like him), the Hobgoblin arc and Spider-Man beating Fire-Lord, which was really the 80's version of him lifting the rubble from the 60's.

So, the Stern era Spidey.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 11:24 pm 
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Definitely the Lee/Ditko run. I got to read most of that monthly in Marvel Tales in the '80s - so great. (I loved the Stern run, too).


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:05 am 
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The issues of Spectacular in which he fought Carrion and met The White Tiger (while studying the 'Erskine Papers' at Empire University), and Gloria Grant was J. Jonah Jameson's secretary. I love that era/version of the character; even though I initially read B&W reprints of the Lee/Ditko stuff when I was first starting to get into comics, the version who appeared in Spectacular was "my" Spider-Man. I'm not even sure why, that's just my favourite version of him. Maybe it was because there was such a great cast of supporting characters, and the plot seemed to move along at a steady pace - I just really loved those issues when I first read them, and I still use that as my 'gold standard' for Spider-Man stuff.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:18 am 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:14 am 
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The definitive Spidey was in the Lee/Ditko/Romita comics of the '60's.The most successful of the later day Spider-comics stick to the spirit of the '60s comics,such as Roger Stern's stories or Ultimate Spider-Man at its best.

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The first 150ish issues of Amazing, Spectacular 150ish-200, Amazing 298-328, The JMS/JRjr issues of Amazing. That would pretty much cover everything I've liked.

Absolutely definitive for me would be the first 33, first 2 annuals. Contrary to most, I really like the JMS/JRjr stuff too.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:09 am 
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First and foremost, the Lee/Ditko run. I read those in Pocket Books form in the 1970's, and they contain the essential elements that I will always associate with the character.

But I'd say the entire first 200 issues carries a certain "canon" like feel to me. To this day, when I see one of those covers, it smells like America.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 9:17 am 
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Rob-El wrote:
The first 150ish issues of Amazing, Spectacular 150ish-200, Amazing 298-328, The JMS/JRjr issues of Amazing. That would pretty much cover everything I've liked.

Absolutely definitive for me would be the first 33, first 2 annuals. Contrary to most, I really like the JMS/JRjr stuff too.

I liked the JMS/JRjr run, too. Rita loved it.


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I liked the art in it. The totem stuff was just garbage, though (imho).

As for what comics define Spider-Man, another vote for Ditko and Lee.

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Lee/Ditko/Romita era and all the way up to the 90s. The moment Peter's parents showed up was the moment Spider-Man jumped the shark. There have been good runs and good stories since, but nothing consistent. I think that storyline (which led directly into the clone saga) is what really started throwing it off the rails, never to return.

Funny thing is, other than the first 6 or so Lee/Ditko issues, I didn't read any of that stuff until after I'd survived the 90s. I realized that all the little things that I liked about the character were brought fully to life and better represented by that older stuff than by what I'd been reading. I couldn't look at my back issues the same way again, and ditched them all.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:49 am 
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The Lee/Ditko books were what we had in the house. I bought a ton of Spider-Man titles in the early/mid 70's, but none stand out in my memory. I enjoyed the Romita Jr. run a while back, even though the totem stuff was lame. When I think of Spider-Man, I think of those Lee/Ditko stories.


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 Post subject: Spider-Man: Which comics define him to you?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:50 am 
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Madjak wrote:
For me, the ones that stick out are the issue where the Beyonder turned the Heroes for Hire building into gold and Peter was torturing himself over keeping a gold clipboard or something (guest starring Duke from GI Joe..or someone who looked like him), the Hobgoblin arc and Spider-Man beating Fire-Lord, which was really the 80's version of him lifting the rubble from the 60's.

So, the Stern era Spidey.


Thanks, but I can't take credit for the Beyonder story or the Spider-Man/Fire-Lord battle. That was Tom DeFalco and Ron Frenz.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 12:40 pm 
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Incidentally ... every Batman Beyond villain has a Spider-Man villain equivalent. He's basically Spider-Man in blue, with gadgets.


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What's the Spider-Man equivalent of the Royal Flush Gang?


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I think it only works with the individual villains, not the groups. I don't know, I read it somewhere.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2014 1:10 pm 
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I can't really cite particular issues, but the version that made the most impression on me was the 1970s Spider-Man. Which I suppose was basically the continuation of the later 1960s Lee-Romita Spidey.

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Ditko Spidey for me, but I bought Spider-man books off and on for many years until their
just got to be too many of them. That's when I started tuning out.

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Incidentally ... every Batman Beyond villain has a Spider-Man villain equivalent. He's basically Spider-Man in blue, with gadgets.


Mix Spider-Man with Batman,add some Iron Man,set it in the future,and you've got Batman Beyond.

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Amazing Fantasy #15 and Amazing Spider-Man #1 through #121 (death of Gwen Stacy) are the core, for me.

There's a lot of really good stuff after that, but the essence is in that stretch IMO.


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I supposed he's defined by how I got introduced to the character. The first Hobgoblin story, the Romita Jr. run, allllll they way up to the wedding, then I tuned out until Venom showed up, and lasted until the Clone Saga.


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