He was Nite Owl for 15 years.

The one panel that showed him retiring... he wasn't a slim guy.

None of the panels featuring him in his active years resemble that Lee art. He had a heavy, thick necked cowl. Nothing like the movie version that Lee is aping.

Yup.

Except for the pouches. The movie costume didn't have pouches. But Lee couldn't leave those out, could he?

On the previous page, it looks like Nite Owl is taking a dump in that chimney....

....just like DC is taking a dump on Alan Moore's legacy. DID I DO IT RITE, HANZO?

Difference for me is that Moore only rants when asked by some interviewer or other, from when I have seen him asked about the ranty topics in person, he does not rant, just says i did not get on with such and such, or bad things happen and leaves it at that. ( i am of course paraphrasing) .

So I get the feeling that the interviewers want him to rant.

BYrnsie on the other hand does this just because he can.

http://geek-news.mtv.com/2012/03/17/bef ... -len-wein/

I cannot wait until the Giant-Sized Watchmen Annual.

Isn't that a good thing? Instead of tweeking Moore's characters, he came up with his own?

Coming up with another pirate comic in the Watchmen universe and just changing the color and type of ship in the name doesn't count as "coming up with his own" characters.

If that universe didn't have superhero comics, maybe they had crime comics, and horror comics. Hell, maybe they still had sci-fi comics that featured alien invasions, which would figure into Oz's ultimate plot.

But another pirate comic? Why?

Because the original had a pirate comic.

The old guy with the beard may be right about this.

I thought that it was understood that pirate comics were the superhero comics of that reality. Which is why you'd do another pirate comic.

I for one would love to see stories set in the Watchmen universe that don't include the Watchmen. Show us some lower tier heroes, or some day in the life stories that coincide with the main events of the book.

Yeah, that would actually be interesting.

Well, one could make the argument that's all Moore did with the Charlton heroes... but yeah, unless he's got some ace up his sleeve, this sounds lame. Either it's a straight pirate comics (what's the point, then), a pirate comics that reflects the main story (lame, just repeats something already done), or he actually has some pretty brilliant in mind.

Sounds doubtful, though.

Len Wein:


Right, no one in America would have tapped Moore to write American comics if Len Wein hadn't.

Swamp Thing made him, no question about it. Len is right. Moore almost certainly would have had some sort of career in American comics, but it would have been very different.

Maybe they could introduce some other comic book genre apart from Pirates - like women's beach volleyball comics. Something more original and believable, you know?

Let's pare this down.



lol wut


C'mon. The guys is arguably the most talented writer the medium has seen. He'd have gotten noticed one way or the other. Wein saw him first, and Swamp Thing is awesome, and kudos to Wein for being the first person to tap Moore to work for DC. But if he hadn't, someone else at Marvel or DC would have.

Wein is like de Soto in that Seinfeld bit:
"What's so great about de Soto?"
"He discovered the Mississippi!"
"Oh, like they wouldn't have found that anyway."

If it wasn't for Len Wein, Alan Moore would be sucking dick for nickels.

There, I said it.

I think they call them tuppence.

Paying a Brit for oral sex: comeuppance

I think you're carrying a figure of speech too far. The point was that there is a long tradition to have new talent try a take on old characters. Acting like it's a singular hate crime against Alan Moore is the flaw of Alan Moore.

The difference is that Wein gave Alan Moore his blessing on Swampy. Moore has not done the same for the Before Watchmen teams.

Can't wait to buy the Absolute Before Watchmen Omnibus.

But that gets trumped by Wein being involved and calling out Alan Moore over this.

It all relates back to Wein.