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RobertSwanderson
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:20 am |
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Bigger and Better!
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:08 am |
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Rest in peace, champ. 
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Dr. Brian Fever
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:22 am |
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Go ahead..I dare ya!
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The man was a machine in the ring.
Pure 100% badass.
RIP Joe.
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luelyron
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:05 am |
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Bolgani Gogo wrote: Rest in peace, champ.  Oh, cool! Heard the news after the Eagles/Bears last night. Window into a different cultural America.
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James C. Taylor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:05 am |
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a k a LightningMan, lover of bountiful pulchritude
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RobertSwanderson
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:25 am |
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The first Ali-Frazier fight was the first fight that I ever bet on. I think I bet a quarter.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:47 pm |
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Ancient Alien Theorist
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RobertSwanderson
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 12:52 pm |
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Ali. 
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Allen Berrebbi
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:11 pm |
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Very sad. It's also interesting how styles can affect a match. Joe Frazier was one of the all time greats but his style could do nothing against Foreman. Yet Ali dismantled Foreman. But Joe gave Ali all he could handle and their last fight, finished them both.
There's a little bit of Frazier in Stallone's Rocky and the third Rocky movie, the first Clubber/Rocky fight, seems inspired by Frazier/Foreman.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:25 am |
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Yeah, it was an interesting thing -- Ali was more durable than Frazier but couldn't muster the punching power Foreman did to KO Frazier.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:28 am |
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Ali's strategy against Foreman was almost to let Foreman beat himself. If Foreman hadn't have gone bonkers after that fight, who knows if Ali could've beat him in a rematch? Hard to imagine the rope a dope working twice on the same guy.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:47 am |
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It's a tough strategy to pull off, though -- "I'll let the biggest puncher in the world hit me until he's too tired to defend himself!"
How many other people could have pulled off that strategy?
That said, if Foreman fought a smarter fight, I think he could probably have won a rematch.
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Bolgani Gogo
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:02 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: It's a tough strategy to pull off, though -- "I'll let the biggest puncher in the world hit me until he's too tired to defend himself!"
How many other people could have pulled off that strategy? I think you have to be half-crazy to come up with that strategy! 
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Allen Berrebbi
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 11:12 am |
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Ali's heart and stamina were very underrated. The flashiness was what got him notoriety but it was the other two things that made him a legend.
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James C. Taylor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:04 pm |
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a k a LightningMan, lover of bountiful pulchritude
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: Joe Frazier, RIP Posted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 4:32 pm |
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Allen Berrebbi wrote: Ali's heart and stamina were very underrated. The flashiness was what got him notoriety but it was the other two things that made him a legend. He really didn't have the capability to fight that way when he came back from his "exile" from boxing. The "float like a butterfly, sting like a bee" style of boxing requires the speed and reaction time of youth to pull off. He was tough enough and smart enough to adapt -- unlike Mike Tyson, who couldn't slip under jabs and close the distance with the blazing speed of his young self.
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