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 Post subject: Jim Cheung is the Bomb - Avengers the Children's Crusade
PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 1:26 pm 
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Heinberg and Cheung back on Young Avengers. My favorite Marvel book, yes MARVEL book, of the last 5+ years is back somewhat and I'm diggin it.

And Cheung is awesome.

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I've thought so for a very long time...since he did Iron Man around the time of The Crossing...he did the whole "Teen Tony" arc that was probably the best thing to come out of that mess.

Crimony...That was 15 years ago? Time flies.

I followed him to Scion (for Crossgen) and loved that just as much.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:20 pm 
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Tell me about this series, please.

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Good Stuff, Maynard!

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The Young Avengers decide to find the Scarlet Witch. Along the way, they reluctantly team up with Magneto.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:55 pm 
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I'm waiting for the trade, but Cheung has also been one of my faves for a long while.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 2:56 pm 
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Hank wrote:
The Young Avengers decide to find the Scarlet Witch. Along the way, they reluctantly team up with Magneto.


I'm guessing there are also hijinks that ensue.

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Thanks, Hank. I need to track down the previous three issues. Cheung's art looks as terrific as ever:

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Reading it from the perspective of a fan of this writer and this artist is interesting, because I'm finding it easy to root for the Young Avengers against both the "multi-faceted" villains and the elder Avengers, none of whom I feel any connection with or fondness for anymore.

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Linda wrote:
Thanks, Hank. I need to track down the previous three issues. Cheung's art looks as terrific as ever:

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Reading it from the perspective of a fan of this writer and this artist is interesting, because I'm finding it easy to root for the Young Avengers against both the "multi-faceted" villains and the elder Avengers, none of whom I feel any connection with or fondness for anymore.


My thought exactly! I just read this issue. He draws a great Wanda doesn't he? And I love Cassie Lang (and her dad)

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Linda wrote:
Thanks, Hank. I need to track down the previous three issues. Cheung's art looks as terrific as ever:

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Reading it from the perspective of a fan of this writer and this artist is interesting, because I'm finding it easy to root for the Young Avengers against both the "multi-faceted" villains and the elder Avengers, none of whom I feel any connection with or fondness for anymore.

My thought exactly! I just read this issue. He draws a great Wanda doesn't he? And I love Cassie Lang (and her dad)

One of the things I loved about the original Young Avengers series, and this series seems to have it too, is that it felt like it was from some alternate universe where Marvel's superhero line had continued to become more sophisticated, but without losing any sense of where it had originally come from. I like comics done this way ... I guess it's just a cult interest now, though. (You've got to wonder how these stories and artwork even got past Quesada to begin with.)

I'm really glad to have this team back on a series.

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Linda wrote:
Allen Berrebbi wrote:
Linda wrote:
Thanks, Hank. I need to track down the previous three issues. Cheung's art looks as terrific as ever:

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Reading it from the perspective of a fan of this writer and this artist is interesting, because I'm finding it easy to root for the Young Avengers against both the "multi-faceted" villains and the elder Avengers, none of whom I feel any connection with or fondness for anymore.

My thought exactly! I just read this issue. He draws a great Wanda doesn't he? And I love Cassie Lang (and her dad)

One of the things I loved about the original Young Avengers series, and this series seems to have it too, is that it felt like it was from some alternate universe where Marvel's superhero line had continued to become more sophisticated, but without losing any sense of where it had originally come from. I like comics done this way ... I guess it's just a cult interest now, though. (You've got to wonder how these stories and artwork even got past Quesada to begin with.)

I'm really glad to have this team back on a series.

Well said and me too. Perfect blend of modernistic superheroes yet still superheroes

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In general, this series has been pretty good.
I do hope that we can get Wanda back somehow.

Marvel is sadly lacking in good female heroes, and they seem to go out of their
way to kill off or completely ruin the ones that they have.

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I completely agree, it's frustrating to watch.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:32 pm 
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Linda wrote:
(You've got to wonder how these stories and artwork even got past Quesada to begin with.)

For what it's worth -- Quesada has said repeatedly in interviews that he loves Young Avengers, that it was something special enough that he would wait for Heinberg to become available again rather than assigning another writer. Apparently the fact that he's willing to produce crap if he thinks it will sell does not mean that he doesn't recognize great, classic-style Marvel comics when he sees them. It's just that he won't devote the whole company to producing them.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:31 pm 
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I loved the original run of Young Avengers. And I've been a fan of Cheung's going back to CrossGen. (Scion was leaps and bounds better than the other titles.)


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Linda wrote:
(You've got to wonder how these stories and artwork even got past Quesada to begin with.)

For what it's worth -- Quesada has said repeatedly in interviews that he loves Young Avengers, that it was something special enough that he would wait for Heinberg to become available again rather than assigning another writer. Apparently the fact that he's willing to produce crap if he thinks it will sell does not mean that he doesn't recognize great, classic-style Marvel comics when he sees them. It's just that he won't devote the whole company to producing them.

I absolutely believe every word of this.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:51 am 
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I'm enjoying the series a lot. I think the Young Avengers are great characters. I hope this has a definite resolution/redemption with Wanda.

Wolverine is an ineffectual douche.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:22 pm 
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Yeah, Wolverine annoys here.
Still, he could have killed her easily, instead he just decided to give another speech.
No doubt he is in love with her as he is every other Marvel female character.

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They should make a comic team of all of Wolverine's offspring. You know there's got to be more out there.


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Junkie Luv wrote:
I'm enjoying the series a lot. I think the Young Avengers are great characters. I hope this has a definite resolution/redemption with Wanda.

Wolverine is an ineffectual douche.


Not a fan of him on the Avengers 9same with Spiderman). But he has a point.

I hope Wanda comes back and undoes the nonsense the writers made her do and BRING BACK SCOTT LANG!!

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Man I just read the One-Shot and issue five and I LOVE Heinberg on these characters. Young Avengers, done by him and Cheung, is without a doubt my favorite Marvel book in the last who knows how many years.

And I love Cassie Lang. I know she's not real but I just want to hug her.

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The one-shot confused me. It seemed to be pointless, or just more tie-in bulk. And is Cassie supposed to be Stinger or Stature, or both?

The new issue of the regular series was very good, and the art was beautiful. Cheung is the best artist Marvel currently publishes, IMLO.

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Yeah the one shot seemed pointless but the Crusade dries is great

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