Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 9:58 am
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...what's what? For me --
Superman
Writer: Roger Stern Artist: Ed McGuinness Description: An all-ages title in the vein of Timm and Dini's animated universe. Stories take one to three issues and are designed to be easily accessible.
The Dark Knight
Writer: Ed Brubaker Artist: Jim Lee Description: Tries to appeal to the audience that made TDK one of the most successful films of all time. Brubaker goes for the moody crime drama vibe while Lee appeals to the "techno-thriller" aspect of the gadets and armor.
Green Lantern
Writer: Bryan Lee O'Malley Artist: Darwyn Cooke Description: I think due to his powers and costume, GL works best as a cartoon character a la Superman. This would have the same DC animated universe vibe of Superman -- hopefully, O'Malley can bring over his Scott Pilgrim audience while Cooke's simultaneously retro and modern cartoon art would appeal to that same audience.
Wonder Woman
Writer: Stephanie Meyer Artist: Adam Warren Description: A longshot, but if you could get the woman that gave pre-teen girls their 'Star Wars' to figure out Wonder Woman, you'd have a great girls' comic. Warren's expressive Manga based art would be enticing as well, provided he toned down some of the gratuitous T&A you see in Empowered.
Justice League
Writer: Grant Morrison Artist: Bruce Timm Description: Again, using the Dini/Timm all ages style of writing here.
Hands of Fate
Writer & Artist: Jeff Smith Description: I see this as playing pretty loose with DC's two magic characters Zatanna and Dr. Fate, turning them into teen heroes that investigate paranormal activity. It's a play for the Harry Potter crowd.
Vertigo: House of Mystery
Writer: Various Artist: Various Description: The resident horror anthology. This will pack a Vertigo vibe with some Mike Mignola magic thrown in. The art should be moody stuff like Mike Mignola or any of his artists from BPRD to Bernie Wrightson Frankenstein stuff and everything in between. Stuff like the Walking Dead or Swamp Thing could be featured here.
Vertigo: Men of War
Writer: Various Artist: Various Description: The resident war anthology. Rather than old Joe Kubert and Harvey Kurtzman wannabe stuff, it'll be more up-to-date feeling with a Tom Clancy sensibility. I see guys like Steve Epting,Sean Phillips or Lee Weeks doing this book. Stuff like revamp of The Losers or DMZ would be here.
Vertigo: Strange
Writer: Various Artist: Various Description: The resident sci fi anthology. I see this as a comic version of Asimov or Analog, except with a strong cyberpunk or manga "Ghost in the Shell" sensibility in terms of visuals. It'll be like a more mainstream Heavy Metal. You could also do little Twilight Zone type tales here. Stuff like Transmetroplitan, the Invisibles, etc. would be featured here.
Vertigo: Crime & Punishment
Writer: Various Artist: Various Description: The resident sci fi anthology. I see this as a comic version of Asimov or Analog, except with a strong cyberpunk or manga "Ghost in the Shell" sensibility in terms of visuals. It'll be like a more mainstream Heavy Metal. Stuff like 100 Bullets or Criminal would go here.
Vertigo: Otherworlds
Writer: Various Artist: Various Description: The resident fantasy anthology. Pretty, ornate art along the lines of JG Williams or Colleen Doran would be the order of the day. Books like Sandman, Elfquest, Promethea, etc. would go here.
Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:21 am
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I think you'd want an all-ages Batman title as well as one inspired by TDK. I'd solve the problem by making Paul Dini EIC of the whole line. Under his guidance, the entire DCU could, like JLU, be made instantly accessible to all ages while avoiding the trap of being too "kiddie". He could hire the talent he wanted, all answerable to editorial edict. No rock stars. That could be reserved for Vertigo line or even, later, once things got re-established to a solid status quo, some elseworlds type tales.
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I'd grab Len Wein, Marv Wolfman, Roger Stern, Roy Thomas, Paul Levitz, Cary Bates and Steve Englehart and give 'em three books each to write. I'd use modern all modern artists, although Jim Lee would not make the cut. I'd put Jim Shooter in charge of the line.
"Best selling comic book of the decade". I'm no fan but producers don't only hire people and work they're fans of -- they look at the market and decide what they think will sell.
Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:06 pm
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Jeff wrote:
I think you'd want an all-ages Batman title as well as one inspired by TDK. I'd solve the problem by making Paul Dini EIC of the whole line.
I agree with you somewhat, but I guess I'd be concerned about the mainstream audience seeing 2 different versions of Batman. I figured it'd be easier for them to just go with one.
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Jeff wrote:
I think you'd want an all-ages Batman title as well as one inspired by TDK. I'd solve the problem by making Paul Dini EIC of the whole line.
I agree with you somewhat, but I guess I'd be concerned about the mainstream audience seeing 2 different versions of Batman. I figured it'd be easier for them to just go with one.
Maybe an all-ages monthly, supplemented by original graphic novels for the grown-ups?
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
Jeff wrote:
I think you'd want an all-ages Batman title as well as one inspired by TDK. I'd solve the problem by making Paul Dini EIC of the whole line.
I agree with you somewhat, but I guess I'd be concerned about the mainstream audience seeing 2 different versions of Batman. I figured it'd be easier for them to just go with one.
Probably a reasonable concern. I don't know if it'd make more sense to go after the Brave and the Bold crowd or the Dark Knight crowd if you can only do one, though. You can make a strong case either way.
Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:47 pm
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The Brave & The Bold was recently cancelled though, right?
If you're targeting only children, it might be a smart move, but if you want to hook teens and young adults as well, I'd go TDK style. I've seen a lot of TDK material aimed at younger age groups, so it seems to have appeal there despite not having a bright and happy aesthetic.
Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:14 pm
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
In fact, the Twilight OGN was one of the best selling GNs the year it debuted -- and that was an adaptation of a book that had been out for years.
I'm wondering how many of those women actually read the entire thing. It wasn't a case of, "This graphic novel is amazing, I need to read it." It was, "There's another Twilight book out! I have to own every Twilight book!"
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RobertSwanderson wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
In fact, the Twilight OGN was one of the best selling GNs the year it debuted -- and that was an adaptation of a book that had been out for years.
I'm wondering how many of those women actually read the entire thing. It wasn't a case of, "This graphic novel is amazing, I need to read it." It was, "There's another Twilight book out! I have to own every Twilight book!"
I figure it was a similar situation to the Star Wars comic that came out in 1977.
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:38 pm
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RobertSwanderson wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
In fact, the Twilight OGN was one of the best selling GNs the year it debuted -- and that was an adaptation of a book that had been out for years.
I'm wondering how many of those women actually read the entire thing. It wasn't a case of, "This graphic novel is amazing, I need to read it." It was, "There's another Twilight book out! I have to own every Twilight book!"
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Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:46 pm
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
RobertSwanderson wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
In fact, the Twilight OGN was one of the best selling GNs the year it debuted -- and that was an adaptation of a book that had been out for years.
I'm wondering how many of those women actually read the entire thing. It wasn't a case of, "This graphic novel is amazing, I need to read it." It was, "There's another Twilight book out! I have to own every Twilight book!"
Post subject: So, If You Were Lining Up DC's Creative Teams for a Mainstream Audience...
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:32 pm
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Hanzo the Razor wrote:
RobertSwanderson wrote:
Hanzo the Razor wrote:
In fact, the Twilight OGN was one of the best selling GNs the year it debuted -- and that was an adaptation of a book that had been out for years.
I'm wondering how many of those women actually read the entire thing. It wasn't a case of, "This graphic novel is amazing, I need to read it." It was, "There's another Twilight book out! I have to own every Twilight book!"
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