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Who Was the 80's Greatest Action Star- Sly or Arnie?
Arnold 57%  57%  [ 12 ]
Stallone 42%  42%  [ 9 ]
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Sylvester Stallone and his two main characters, were and are my heroes.

(Of course I mean his characters from Rhinestone and Over the Top).

I saw every Stallone movie in the theater from 1985 to the present (even Spy Kids III). They were always fun for me, even if not great movies, and Sly was always cool!

His messages (in film and in interviews), and I'm serious, had a tremendous impact on me :)

He will lose this poll though :(

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Arnold.

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Rob Steinbrenner wrote:
His messages (in film and in interviews), and I'm serious, had a tremendous impact on me :)

I never would've guessed. :yay:


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Not to say Arnold isn't cool! I give him mad props :)

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I honestly enjoy Terminator, T2, True Lies, and even Twins. The only Stallone movie that I enjoy is Cop Land. I voted for Arnold.

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Arnold, easily. I dislike Stallone in movies immensely. If it were which one I'd like to have a beer with, my choice would be the opposite. :)


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I went Stallone. I tihnk Arnold makes better films overall but I like Rocky way better than any Arnold film.


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Schwarzenegger was more successful than Stallone was with comedies (compare Kindergarten Cop & Twins to Oscar & Rhinestone). Also, Stallone had more critical and commercial failures in the 80s than Schwarzenegger did, like Cobra, Lock Up, and Over the Top.

So Arnold wins.


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Oscar was great :)

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It was also made in 1991.

Poor Kevin. He voted outside the guidelines.

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You're the one who mentioned Spy Kids III (2003).... :P


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Stallone's 80s output

Tango & Cash (1989) .... Raymond 'Ray' Tango
Lock Up (1989) .... Frank Leone
Rambo III (1988) .... Rambo
Over the Top (1987) .... Lincoln Hawk
... aka Meet Me Half Way (USA)
Cobra (1986) .... Lieutenant Marion 'Cobra' Cobretti
Rocky IV (1985) .... Rocky Balboa
Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) .... John J. Rambo
Rhinestone (1984) .... Nick Martinelli
Staying Alive (1983) (directed)
First Blood (1982) .... John J. Rambo
... aka Rambo: First Blood
Rocky III (1982) .... Rocky Balboa
Victory (1981) .... Captain Robert Hatch
... aka Escape to Victory
Nighthawks (1981) .... Det. Sgt. Deke DaSilva
... aka Night Hawks (USA)

and these were on tv/video during the 80s



Rocky II (1979) .... Rocky Balboa
Paradise Alley (1978) .... Cosmo Carboni
F.I.S.T (1978) .... Johnny Kovak
Rocky (1976) .... Rocky Balboa
Cannonball! (1976) (uncredited) .... Mafioso
... aka Carquake (UK) "
Farewell, My Lovely (1975) .... Jonnie

Death Race 2000 (1975) .... Machine Gun Joe Viterbo
Capone (1975) .... Frank Nitti
The Lord's of Flatbush (1974) .... Stanley Rosiello

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Stallone also wrote:



Rambo III (1988) (written by)
Over the Top (1987) (screenplay)
... aka Meet Me Half Way (USA)
Cobra (1986) (screenplay)
Rocky IV (1985) (written by)
Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) (screenplay)
Rhinestone (1984) (screenplay)
Staying Alive (1983) (written by)
First Blood (1982) (screenplay)
... aka Rambo: First Blood
Rocky III (1982) (written by)


Rocky II (1979) (written by)
Paradise Alley (1978) (written by)
F.I.S.T (1978) (screenplay)
Rocky (1976) (written by)
The Lord's of Flatbush (1974) (screenplay)
... aka The Lords of Flatbush (USA: poster

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and directed:

Rocky IV (1985)
Staying Alive (1983)
Rocky III (1982)


Rocky II (1979)
Paradise Alley (1978)

and produced
Staying alive

and did the boxing choreography

Rocky III (1982) (boxing choreographer)


Rocky II (1979) (boxing choreographer)
Rocky (1976) (boxing choreographer

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Arnold's 80s outpit

Twins (1988/I) .... Julius Benedict
Red Heat (1988) .... Capt. Ivan Danko
The Running Man (1987) .... Ben Richards
Predator (1987) .... Dutch
Raw Deal (1986) .... Mark Kaminsky, aka Joseph P. Brenner
... aka Triple Identity
Commando (1985) .... John Matrix
Red Sonja (1985) .... Kalidor
The Terminator (1984) .... The Terminator
Conan the Destroyer (1984) .... Conan
Conan the Barbarian (1982) .... Conan
The Jayne Mansfield Story (1980) (TV) .... Mickey Hargitay
... aka Jayne Mansfield: A Symbol of the 50's

and made in the 70s but potentially available to view in the 80s

Pumping Iron (1977) .... Himself

Hercules in New York (1970)

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Now start adding up gross ticket sales from movies the two actors starred in. :)


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Kevin wrote:
You're the one who mentioned Spy Kids III (2003).... :P


Just that I saw it :)

Not that it counts. It was terrible :(

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So, what I'm gathering from all this is, is that Steinbrenner wants to Stallone's naughty bits rammed into him. Got it.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 5:53 pm 
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Ok but this sucks to do. sigh. good thing it's a jewish holiday and no one is here.

Stallone:

12/22/89 Tango & Cash WB $63,408,614
8/4/89 Lock Up TriS $22,099,847
5/25/88 Rambo III TriS $53,715,611
2/13/87 Over the Top WB $16,057,580
5/23/86 Cobra WB $49,042,224 2
11/27/85 Rocky IV UA $127,873,716
5/22/85 Rambo: First Blood Part II TriS $150,415,432
6/22/84 Rhinestone Fox $21,435,321
7/15/83 Staying Alive Par. $64,892,670
10/22/82 First Blood Orion $47,212,904
5/28/82 Rocky III UA $125,049,125
7/31/81 Victory Par. $10,853,418
4/10/81 Nighthawks Uni. $14,905,359


$766,962,821 unadjusted for inflation-average per film $58,997, 140

Adjusted for inflation-

Tango & Cash WB $99,879,100
8/4/89 Lock Up TriS $36,629,000
5/25/88 Rambo III TriS $85,997,300
2/13/87 Over the Top WB $27,022,700
5/23/86 Cobra WB $86,980,500
11/27/85 Rocky IV UA $232,848,400
5/22/85 Rambo: First Blood Part II TriS $278,798,200
6/22/84 Rhinestone Fox $41,977,500
7/15/83 Staying Alive Par. $135,553,600
10/22/82 First Blood Orion $105,667,000
5/28/82 Rocky III UA $279,737,200
7/31/81 Victory Par. $25,689,000
4/10/81 Nighthawks Uni. $35,279,600


adjusted total-$1,472,059,100 average per film (adjusted)-$113,235,315

Adjusted over $200 mill-2
adjusted over $100 mill-5
Adjusted over $75-8

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Arnold

12/9/88 Twins Uni. $111,938,388
6/17/88 Red Heat TriS $34,994,648
11/13/87 The Running Man TriS $38,122,105
6/12/87 Predator Fox $59,735,548
6/6/86 Raw Deal DEG $16,209,459
10/4/85 Commando Fox $35,100,000
7/5/85 Red Sonja MGM $6,948,633
10/26/84 The Terminator Orion $38,371,200
6/29/84 Conan the Destroyer Uni. $31,042,035
5/14/82 Conan the Barbarian Uni. $39,565,475

Total (unadjusted) $352,352,226 average per film-$35,235,223, $38, 378, 177 (without Red Sonja)

Adjusted-

12/9/88 Twins Uni. $183,074,400
6/17/88 Red Heat TriS $56,025,500
11/13/87 The Running Man TriS $63,888,800
6/12/87 Predator Fox $100,526,800
6/6/86 Raw Deal DEG $28,748,800
10/4/85 Commando Fox $65,058,600
7/5/85 Red Sonja MGM $12,879,400
10/26/84 The Terminator Orion $74,685,900
6/29/84 Conan the Destroyer Uni. $60,790,700 17
5/14/82 Conan the Barbarian Uni. $88,551,300

Adjusted total-$734,230,200 per film adjusted $73,430,020 $80,150,088 without Red Sonja

Adjusted-$200 or more-zero
$100 or more-2
$75 or more-3

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That sucked to do. and proves nothing (other than raw popularity at the time) But Kevin asked :)

In my opinion, 1988 and Twins and then the 90s was when Arnold became a superstar. By the early 90s he had eclipsed Sly in popularity, and would permanently.

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