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Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

Gratuitous picture of Anna Paquin as Rogue, found while searching for images of Rogue's different costumes.

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

Ocean Doot wrote:

CAT wrote:

Yeah, I think Gambit's costume was awful.

Cyclops worked, IMO. When you break it down, it's a pretty minor update of his classic costume.

Jean's also looked good, and is a personal favourite, but I fully admit that it is a very generic costume.

Rogue's also worked. I don't think it was a bad costume. I'd say it was quite good really, considering it still looked pretty good well past the time that the individual elements were considered 'dated'.

Agreed about Cyclops. Basically the classic costume, but with some 90s buckles and straps, and the cowl gotten rid of so we can see Scott's gorgeous head of hair.

Strongly disagree about Jean's, though. The blue and orange is a pretty bad color choice, I think, and if you go backwards from Lee to all the other costumes that character has worn, Lee's is at the very bottom, I think. Maybe it's just that it suffers from comparison, since I think Cockrum's green and yellow Phoenix design is the single best superhero costume of all time.

Rogue's is too busy, I think. I much preferred the green and black look that she had during Silvestri's era.

While I love the Lee costume for Jean, you can't beat her Phoenix outfit for the absolute best fit for her. I agree with you there, it's a fantastic design, and easily one of the best costumes ever done.

I do think it was supposed to be blue and gold though, not the blue and orange it was depicted as. I could be wrong there, though.

The black and green look for Rogue was admittedly before my time, so it always seemed incredibly dated to me. I really love her current costume, it's my personal favourite for her.

Darragh Greene · 01 Jan 2007

Hanzo the Razor wrote:

I like Jim Lee's art style but designing costumes isn't his strong suit... I can't think of one iconic or awesome costume he'd designed.

The closest is Gambit's costume and it looks fucking awful.

I liked his designs for Psylocke, Deathbird, Nick Fury's uniform when he turned up in UXM and X-Men and Rogue's costume from X-Men 1 on. Rogue's is probably the most striking design; it's what I see when I think of her.

Rafael · 03 Dec 2006

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

CAT wrote:

James C. Taylor wrote:

CAT wrote:

From just adding a collar?

Trunkless kingdom come style S Superman, TV show outfit Wonder Woman, transformer suit Batman. The collars were the least of my design concerns.

Wonder Woman I give a pass on, as I think that would have happened anyway, due to the timing.

Batman I want a better look at, as it does look similar to some designs he did for ASBAR that looked okay from other angles. It could also be influenced from the designs created for Mortal Kombat vs DCU, or more likely - Batman Arkham Asylum, which was extremely popular.

Superman I also want to see full-figure first. I wouldn't really care either way though, Superman is Aquaman to me. I also don't really think that any change to Superman will stick around. I think the red trunks are always going to around.

Actually, I wonder if all 3 of these designs weren't mandated fairly heavily by others?

Superman's is similar to his look in Superman:Earth One, by the looks of it, which was the best-selling OGN of last year.

Batman looks like his Arkham Asylum look, a hugely popular video game, and/or a fusion of his traditional comic look, with a bit of the techier look we see in the massively popular Nolan films.

Wonder Woman resembles the look she would have had in the expected tv show, had it been greenlit.

I wonder if they were largely decided upon by others, not Lee?

Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

Darragh Greene · 01 Jan 2007

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rogue's is too busy, I think. I much preferred the green and black look that she had during Silvestri's era.

The Silvestri minimalist design was pretty cool; it's probably a better fit for her personality too. However, Lee's design packs more punch.

Rick Lundeen · 04 Oct 2004

I would rather have seen Alex Ross design the new outfits, personally. He does a nice job usually. The new designs I've seen so far, so so. some like GL, Aquaman, Batman and Cyborg work well enough as they've always tweaked their look here and there. Superman and Flash, it looks like he just couldn't figure out what to do so made goofy little adjustments, pretty lame. Wonder woman now looks like a hooker.

Rick Lundeen · 04 Oct 2004

and Lee's designs usually smack too much of Image in the '90's and that's best left to the '90's. superman shouldn't have kneepads and clunky boots.

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

Rick Lundeen wrote:

I would rather have seen Alex Ross design the new outfits, personally. He does a nice job usually. The new designs I've seen so far, so so. some like GL, Aquaman, Batman and Cyborg work well enough as they've always tweaked their look here and there. Superman and Flash, it looks like he just couldn't figure out what to do so made goofy little adjustments, pretty lame. Wonder woman now looks like a hooker.

I've seen that comment a fair bit, and I honestly don't understand how Wonder Woman looks like a hooker in that outfit?

Rafael · 03 Dec 2006

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

Darragh Greene wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rogue's is too busy, I think. I much preferred the green and black look that she had during Silvestri's era.

The Silvestri minimalist design was pretty cool; it's probably a better fit for her personality too. However, Lee's design packs more punch.

I was with you till the second sentence. Lee's design is so busy, there is nothing to really lock onto, for me. The word "punch" implies directness, but the Lee's Rogue design is so scattered and chaotic.

I can't see how this

packs more punch than this

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

As bad as that time you took forty cakes.

Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

If creating stealth X-Men threads is outlawed, only outlaws will create stealth X-Men threads.

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Is creating stealth X-Men threads is outlawed, only outlaws will create stealth X-Men threads.

IS

James C. Taylor · 16 Aug 2004

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Yeah. It's about as bad as Jim Lee's crappy DC redesigns.

Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

CAT wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Is creating stealth X-Men threads is outlawed, only outlaws will create stealth X-Men threads.

IS

Ocean Doot · 25 Oct 2007

James C. Taylor wrote:

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Yeah. It's about as bad as Jim Lee's crappy DC redesigns.

Can we stay on topic please, James? We were talking about the X-Men.

CAT · **Joined:** 08 Oct 2006 **Posts:** 18746

Jim Lee's Sabretooth design was great.

I always forget that one.

Rafael · 03 Dec 2006

James C. Taylor wrote:

Rafael wrote:

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

I think we can all agree that what you've done is terrible.

Yeah. It's about as bad as Jim Lee's crappy DC redesigns.

Agreed.

On the other hand, his Rogue design was pretty good. Iconic, even.

Bubbles · 28 Jul 2005

I was introduced to X-Men through the cartoon show, so I'm partial to his designs.

Hanzo the Razor · 24 Jun 2007

Ocean Doot wrote:

Rafael wrote:

I'm appalled by Doot's clever making of this a stealth X Men thread.

I was feeling bad about that. I was actually just about to start a new thread to continue the convo.

But eh, hell with it.

Look everybody, Jean Grey through the years!

http://uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/sho ... 61&page=10

This proves that Lee's was not the worst ever for Jean Grey.

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