He's had countless relaunches in the last few years, and nothing seems to have stuck.

The DCNu version seems to suffer by not really having a strong theme or concept. It doesn't seem to have a voice.

Then there's the 'classic' Green Arrow. Is that version too outdated to appeal to a current audience? I think he's seen here as being old, and having rather ridiculous and outdated facial hair, whereas the DCNu version suffers from looking rather generic.

Can he be successful again?

How would you go about making him a solid mid-list sales draw, yet still satisfies audience expectations?

I think a "lost cause" as far as sustained widespread audience interest in the character. The only GA stuff that I recall selling well in the past decade was the Kevin Smith arcs, which were more due to his "superstar" status.

Yes. Any character can be successful.



That model may be antiquated. We can probably only expect characters like Green Arrow and Aquaman to sustain maybe 30-40 issues of a series, and then have to go to main lineup in the JLA until a new idea for him comes up, and repeat the cycle.

But, GA is particularly difficult in the same universe as Batman, so you have to drop the billionaire secret identity aspect. Too redundant. The only way I see it working is if you couple it with his extremely liberal politics. If anything, make them more liberal. Have Green Arrow skirt the edge of superhero and extremist activist (maybe even labeled a terrorist by the media?).

So, you make GA a public One Percenter, while his secret superhero identity is an ultra leftwing advocate. Make him the Punisher for the Occupy Movement. What happens when a guy who thinks CEOs are corrupt and destroying the country has the ability to disrupt that kind of power structure? Super Robin Hood type of thing.

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Green Arrow suffers from that Big Two mentality of throwing characters into very similar situations, too formulaic.

They should approach a Green Arrow comic like the Japanese would. Have Green Arrow be a world class competitive archer, and have the stories include a lot of interesting things about archery. Some very compelling panels where he's got to hit a target (either in competition or to accomplish a story objective). His "Green Arrow" persona is to fight crime, but it doesn't stray into fighting Darkseid. He does manageable stuff -- a world class archer, fighter, who has high-tech gadgetry.

Keep in mind the same question was being asked about Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and both are being done well and done successfully now.

This makes sense.

Green Arrow is not a lost cause, but any progress made to help correct the character would probably not last long.

The Green Arrow needs an original approach which sets him distinctly apart from other comic book characters, so they should bring back the Arrowcar, the Arrowcave, and a kid sidekick wearing a red tunic.

Did he really have an "Arrow Cave"?

I mean, bats live in caves, so that makes sense -- "Arrow Cave"?!

Yes, he really had an Arrowcave:

http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Arrowcave

Woof... pretty lame.

They were fun stories. GA's biggest problem is that he's perceived as a perennial second-rater. It's very difficult to find lasting success for that kind of character in a solo series, even though they work well as back-up stories and team members. The Green Arrow, The Martian Manhunter, Metamorpho, Hawkeye ....

They actually featured the Arrow Cave briefly in Identity Crisis. He mentioned how he spent a small fortune on it and hardly even used it.

Him having a secret fort is fine but to call it the "Arrow Cave" is lame. If they named it after Sherwood Forest or something like that, it would make more sense... and be less of an obvious Batcave knock-off.

You mean Sherwood Forest where ROBIN Hood hung out?

Silly Hanzo.

I don't disagree that there is nothing wrong with him having his own secret fortress, but I did like the idea that he had a secret cave he never used. I wonder if Spider-Man has a storage locker with the Spider-Car in it somewhere.

I'm gonna put my fist in Doot's "arrow cave" during the next meet-up... or should I say, meat-up.

Even the Smallville incarnation had some good points so they could do it. There's not too much stuff the character is even tied to except he wears green and shoots arrows. Lots of leeway there. Much easier on the budget than any Super or Bat show, too.

And DC's wiki says that the Arrowcar was wrecked in some story only recently. It's neat that a writer pulled these things out of mothballs.

It was completely different. For one thing, the Arrowcave had a giant nickel in it, not a giant penny.