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Best Superman saving a girl from killing herself
All-Star Superman 83%  83%  [ 15 ]
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I like the one where he tells the person they shouldn't have faith in anyone or anything other than themselves.

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How many people were murdered in Metropolis during the hours that Superman babysat this girl?

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Superman doesn't tell people that suicide is an option.


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Linda wrote:
How many people were murdered in Metropolis during the hours that Superman babysat this girl?


A new hero was protecting the streets of Metropolis . . . . the Pinger!

Ping!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZLUlacFnnE&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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I like the one where he tells the person they shouldn't have faith in anyone or anything other than themselves.

They'll jump for sure if they believe that.

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This one's up there with Batman absolutely refusing to kill as The Joker murders another hundred innocent victims. A pretentious, misguided view of the concept of heroism from writers who are as self-serving as the way they portray the characters.

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"I'll talk to her" it's the most awesome, action oriented quote since Gandalf said to the balrog "Let's have tea"

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:10 am 
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JMS should have had that girl in his story choose to jump just so Superman could have peed himself.


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I liked the original version of the All Star version best.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 12:45 am 
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They are both fine, I guess.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 6:27 am 
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I agree with Doot, mostly. Truth is, the first one seemed a little fast, I find it hard to believe someone would give up on committing suicide so quickly. Although in fairness, Superman showing up would probably be a nice budge in the right direction. The second one was too long and chocked full of pretentious expository dialogue. My biggest problem with the second one was Superman hanging around and not stopping any other crime.

Each of them has their flaws and strengths, although I'd say the All Star one is slightly better.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:30 am 
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I think it was hackish of JMS to write Superman talking a girl out of suicide so soon after the A*S scene.
Fucking think of something original.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:42 am 
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Linda wrote:
This one's up there with Batman absolutely refusing to kill as The Joker murders another hundred innocent victims. A pretentious, misguided view of the concept of heroism from writers who are as self-serving as the way they portray the characters.


Well, when the Joker was first around and killed people, Batman ALSO killed people. The Batman's '60s code against killing went along with a kindler, gentler Joker. Then, when the Joker went murderous again and Batman kept his code, it stopped making sense.

It only makes sense in the context of, say, the Animated universe where the Joker (or any other villains) don't routinely murder, and when one does (like in Mask of the Phantasm) it's a Really Big Deal.


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Isn't the first person being saved a dude, anyway? Regan?

The best is Kingdom Come Superman laying the smackdown on the JSA's candy asses to save a suicide jumper.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 10:51 am 
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RobertSwanderson wrote:
Superman doesn't tell people that suicide is an option.


I'd agree.

The implicit premise here seems to be that if Superman saved her against her will she'd just get mad and then go right back and try it again. But from what I've read, people who survive an attempt at suicide are very unlikely to try it again. And people who don't have easy-seeming means close to hand are less likely to try in the first place (That's one argument for railing in prominent jump areas like the Golden Gate Bridge to make them jump-proof). If the character had jumped from the building and Superman had saved her, in all likelihood the shock of coming so close to dying would've served as a wake-up call. And THEN she would have been ready to listen to reason.

A real-life rescuer would have had no choice but to use persuasion, of course, because the Superman catch wouldn't have been an option. But Superman doesn't have that limitation, and his quick-and-dirty rescue method would probably have worked just as well.

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