So, who is smarter in the MCU, Iron Man or Ant Man?

Iron Man
Arc technology.
Repulsor rays.
The Iron Man Suit.

Ant-Man
Specialized suit
Pym Particles
Flying Wings
Ability to speak with and control ants.

Ant-Man

Don't know if you can compare the two? There different sciences that require knowledge and expertise in different areas. The Avengers cartoon even commented on it; when the team was shrunk down by Pym and someone asked Tony if he could get them out he out and out said he couldn't. "I'm a genius but with robotics/technology. Not with something like this."

Just because someone is a killer jiu-jitsu player on the ground does not mean he can be a bad ass boxer, vice versa. Its like comparing peaches and plums. In the same family but not the same, there two different skill sets.

Yes you can. Look at the results. Pym discovered Pym particles, made a suit that uses that technology, and then figured out how to talk to ants. On top of that he created robotic wings. That seems fairly diversified.

To answer that question, look at the results. Who wins in fight between the world's best jiu-jitsu fighter vs. the world's best boxer.

I have no idea. We should ask Brotoro which is the greater scientific achievement between miniaturizing atoms (or whatever) and the power source that is the arc reactor. I don't know which would be harder to actually accomplish in real life.

the power of mother earth trumps a punch...

The Jiu-Jitsu guy, unless the boxer cross-trains in wrestling or can KO a guy with one punch.

I will add tho folks that follow the way usually don't have glass jaws...

Unless it's Tyson then fuckin' run...Do da rope a dope...

Yeah that's da ticket...

"Ahhh can feel it coming in the air tonight...."

Stark invented a new element.

In a perfect world, the answer would be Reed Richards.

Okay, who would win in a fight? A peach or a plum?

IMHO they are fruits so it don't matter...

If I were to chose I would put odds on da...



A plum is a fruit of the subgenus Prunus of the genus Prunus.

Well, his dad did.

Are Pym particles elementary particles, like gluons, mesons and quarks? Are they fundamental forces of nature?

Right off hand, I would say that Hank Pym manages the impossible,
while Tony Stark manages the mostly impossible.

Point to Pym.

Pym in the Marvel Universe is amazingly diversified, The Scientist Supreme, if we can believe that.
I think only Reed Richards has him beat. But Doctor Doom might be able to as well. Tony is incredible,
but he's the most specialized of the four. I give him the nod as Engineer Supreme. But the other three
are pretty damn good with robotics and are at least Stark's equal with A.I.

And Banner is right up there, as is Hank McCoy, and apparently Artimus Cho, or whatever
Hercues' pet boy's name is. Like Stark, though, Banner and McCoy are specialists.

Just the first post online I found Googling smartest guys in the Marvel universe yielded this guy’s (abridged) comment:

1. Reed Richards
2. Dr. Doom
3. Hank Pym
4. Bruce Banner
5. Tony Stark
6. T’Challa
7. Amadeus Cho
8. Hank McCoy

I keep forgetting that T'Challa is shown these days to be a lot smarter than I remember him being from his early appearances.
But this list is pretty close to what I was thinking.

Another poster says this is Marvel's canon list (but seems to have come from recent storylines):
1.) Reed Richards (multiple sources, but seriously... duh...)

2.) Victor von Doom (also multiple sources... and also duh...)

3.) Tony Stark (see above)

4.) Hank Pym (firmly established to be behind these three by a story arc in Mighty Avengers and the Intelligencia story arc)

5.)Bruce Banner (firmly established by the Intelligencia story arc)

6.) Hank McCoy (was listed among the eight smartest during the Intelligencia story arc, but no position was given; determined by process of elimination)

7.) Amadeus Cho (canon established fact)

8.) T'Challa (admitted to this rank personally to Spider-Man)

9.) Otto Octavius (was stated to be just above the Intelligencia in intellect ranking; rejected their offer to join because of it)

10.) The Leader (the Intelligencia's members were next in line on the list after the ones listed above; was stated and shown to be the smartest of the Intelligencia's ranks)

11.) M.O.D.O.K. (was stated to be the second smartest of the Intelligencia's ranks)

12-14.) Wizard, Mad Thinker, and Red Ghost (the remaining Intelligencia members weren't given specific numbers to their ranked positions, but would have filled these ranks)

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