Which comeback tipped the scale and made it common place for people to return from the dead

Was it Jean Grey-the first time, Someone else.

Who was the last big death to stick
Barry Allen? (Hes supposed to be coming back)
Doug Ramsey?
Gwen Stacy?
Ted Kord?

What caused the change that no death is ever believable

Kraven stuck.


Professor X I belive is the first Marvel death erased and they took flack for it. Earlier, Stan had resisted calls to bring back Wonder Man. By Professor X's return (end of the 60s?), some fans were calling foul on the realistic Marvel universe cheating death with a soap operaish move.

Then Jean much later.


my money is on Jean. It was such a powerful, prominent death that was erased, and badly. That was what, 1986? By the late 80s it was definitely a cliche so i think Jean.

Which comeback tipped the scale and made it common place for people to return from the dead

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Sherlock Holmes.

Third season of Heroes.

In Jim Starlin somewhat atrocious Marvel: The End, posits that it was all Wonder Man's fault.

I don't think Wonder Man was a significant enough of a character to make it that big of a deal. Professor X's return in X-Men #65 was probably the biggest in my eye, but, at the time, the X-Men weren't all that big.

Jean Gray. The woman would just not stay dead.

Jesus.

The Marvel, DC or King James Bible version?

While Jean Grey's resurrection did seem to pry open the revolving door, as the first major comic book resurrection... I think the resurrection of Bucky Barnes has totally blown said door off of the hinges. For the longest time, Marvel had a running joke/rule: Only Bucky stays dead.

Pre-Crisis.

Not the Skrull version.

Fair enough.

When did Death become a revolving Door?

Assuming you're referring to heroes getting killed and being brought back. Probably right after they figured out that killing a popular character could increase their sales... instead of offing characters to get rid of a character the writer didn't like (Bucky) or providing the reason for the hero getting into the heroing game (Uncle Ben, Thomas & Martha Wayne).

Death has always been a revolving door for villains.

And if you're referring to the Neil Gaiman characters, Death has never been Door (from Neverwhere), especially not while Door was revolving. Death doesn't spin... unless she's really, really happy.

For the villains, Death became a revolving door when the Joker returned in Batman #1.

Yes, death is too often undone in comics - but I have to give Jean Grey/Phoenix a pass. If there is any character for whom death and rebirth should be acceptable, it is one named The Phoenix - I mean, isn't that the whole concept?

I'm okay with death being a revolving door in superhero comics. I would have never started the "death is real" rule that Marvel tried to institute.

It's all a big, 50-year soap opera anyway. But I'd prefer not killing the heroes to start with.

Death, where is thy sting?

Jean Grey's cheesy badly written return in FF 286 by Cogbyrne and company..ruined a really classic poignant story. Thats when it became a comic book cliche IMO.

Brubaker resurrecting Bucky showed me that it can be done very very well.

But Jean Grey's return made the Dark Phoenix Saga even more poignant

Blame busiek.

Blame the guy who took a fanboy fantasy and turned it into canon instead.