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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:42 pm |
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The old combining Marvel and DC thread got me thinking-- as JR mentioned there's only so many superheroes that can be in one universe before it seems as though EVERYONE has powers.
So what about this-- let's say there was a Secret Wars on Infinite Earths and all Earths merged into one. All heroes died except for 8 solo heroes and 2 superhero teams, with an upper limit of 6 members surviving (this doesn't allow for the JLA or the Avengers, as they're teams composed of solo heroes).
What are you picks?
And if you're inclined, who are the creative teams that would work on them?
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:27 pm |
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I figure that the "Secret Wars on Infinite Earths" must involve a little time-twisting, so let's make this interesting.  The Doom Patrol- Robotman, The Chief, Elasti-Girl, Negative Man The Power Pack- Alex, Jack, Julie and Katie Power Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) Supergirl (Kara Zor-El aka "Linda Danvers") Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) Green Lantern (John Stewart) Captain America (Steve Rogers) The Thing (Ben Grimm) Spider-Girl (May Parker) Phoenix (Jean Grey)
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Li'l Jay
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 6:48 pm |
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In rough order of primacy, first individuals, then groups:
Superman -- the first superhero Batman -- the first regular human to don a superhero costumre and assume a secret identity Spider-man -- the prototypical "teenage werewolf" hero -- young and limited in power. Green Lantern -- space ranger, protector of earth sector Captain America -- symbol of our country Iron Man -- need a Shieldy technology guy The Vision -- need an android in there, to constantly question readers about what it really means to be human Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) -- there needs to be another Superman with the magical angle, and with young Billy Hulk -- got to have the force of nature, uncontrollable, maybe a good guy She-Flash -- in the morphing of realities, the Scarlet Speedster survives, but as the Most Powerful Woman Superhero -- this "speed" counterpart to Superman has always been a better opportunity, in my view, to have a graspable female counterpart to Superman. Make him more powerful and stronger, but she's faster. And zippy speed is something that fits well with the female archetype, better than blunt force.
Fantastic Four -- the "family" team with the most brilliant scientist, strong hulk type, flier, force fields. Doom Patrol -- the "weird" group serves a purpose.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:19 pm |
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Now I'll go--
Superman, natch. -Morrison/Allred
Batman -Bendis/Sale
Spider-Man -Busiek/Rude
Iron Man -Ellis/Jim Lee
Supergirl -Johns/Campbell
Batgirl -Burns/Cho
Hulk -Millar/Timm
Dr. Strange -Mignola
Fantastic Four -Darwyn Cooke
Captain Marvel Family -Moore/Sprouse
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:21 pm |
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Superman - Grant Morrison/Steve Rude
Powerful, but not uber-powerful. Super-smart. Social conscience/gangbuster type.
Batman - Warren Ellis/John Cassaday
Gothic horror crime fighter. Low-tech, high theatricality.
Spider-Man - Jeff Smith/Mike Allred
Teenage superhero. Off-beat and funny + superhero romance
Green Lantern - Darwyn Cooke/JH Williams III
Sci-fi cop in space. On Earth he's the "every man".
Doctor Strange - Neil Gaiman/David Mack
Vertigo-esque superhero fantasy.
Hulk - Ed Brubaker/JR jr
The Banner stuff is the man on the run/Fugitive thing with a bit of a noir twist. The Hulk stuff is big monster smashing bad stuff.
Black Widow - Brian Michael Bendis/Alex Maleev
Spy book.
Wonder Woman - JMS/Ryan Sook
Big political action book (think The Authority) plus Greek mythology
Teams -
Fantastic Four - Matt Fraction/Frank Quitely
Weird, imaginative, fun super-explorers book.
Outsiders - Brian K. Vaughan/Stuart Immonen
X-Men meets Doom Patrol meets Outsiders. Strange and freakish superheroes who don't fit in with everyone else. (Angel, Red Tornado, Wolfsbane, Nightcrawler, Aquaman, Cyborg)
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 8:45 pm |
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Here are my picks - Superman, Spider-Man, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, the Hulk, Batman, Dr. Strange, the Flash - all these are my picks for solo heroes, just because I happen to really like them (let's not get too particular about the Hulk being on my list, eh?  ). The Fantastic Four, and the Teen Titans would be my picks for the two teams. Just because I really love the FF (when they're written well), and because I think some good stories could be told with the Titans. I wouldn't mind about who wrote and/or drew what, as long as they were good. Although some folks I'd like to suggest, to work on any of these comics, would be - JMS, Mike Mignola, Steve Rude, Ron Frenz, Bendis, Uncle Rog, Paul Smith, PAD, Rick Leonardi, Romita Jnr., Millar, Erik Larsen, John Byrne, Bruce Timm, Frank Quitely, Dave Gibbons, Rick Veitch and Fred Hembeck. Those are my picks.
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Mahoney
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:14 pm |
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1 Superman 2 Batman 3 Spider-Man 4 Green Lantern 5-8 FF (Reed, Sue, Johnny, Ben) 9 Doom Patrol (Niles Caulder, Cyclops, Wolverine, Beast Boy, Elasti-girl, Iceman) 10 Heroes for Hire (Oracle, Black Canary, Hawkeye, Black Widow, Blue Beetle, Booster Gold)
10 is a tight limit. I counted FF as single heroes but put them in a team book.
Would love an Avengers/Defenders Book for Cap, Iron Man, Flash, and any other great team player
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Mark
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:21 pm |
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Two Teams?
Fantastic Four is required. In many ways, the best team as a team ever. Stan Lee/Jack Kirby It might come as a surprise (heh) to some, but I'd take the first ever superteam, the Justice Society of America. None of the characters from the original team would need their own book, and they would be the established progenitors of the modern superheroes. Gardner Fox/Joe Kubert
Superman, natch! Mort Weisinger/Swan/Anderson Batman Dennis O'Neil/Marshall Rogers Captain America Roger Stern/John Byrne Spider-Man Stan Lee/John Romita Iron Man Dave Michelinie/John Romita, Jr./Bob Layton Black Widow Steve Gerber/Gil Kane Batgirl Gardner Fox/Infantino/Anderson Zatanna Gardner Fox/Murphy Anderson
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:29 pm |
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That's a interesting choice for creative teams. Anyone past 1980 that you like creatively, Mark?
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:01 am |
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Spider-Man Writer: Sean McKeever Artist: Zander Cannon and Humberto Ramos (each does 6 issues per year)
Hulk Writer: Peter David Artist: John Romita Jr. and Adam Kubert (each does 6 issues per year)
Daredevil Writers: Matt Fraction, Ed Brubaker Artist: David Aja and Whilce Portacio (each does 6 issues per year)
Wonder Woman Writer: Gail Simone Artists: Adam Hughes, Art Adams, Frank Cho (each does 4 issues per year)
Superman Writer: Mark Waid Artists: Ed McGuiness, Pasqual Ferry (each does 6 issues per year)
Plastic Man Writer: Dan Slott Artist: Hilary Barta, Sergio Aragones (each does 6 issues per year)
Green Lantern Writer: Chris Claremont Artist: Chris Bachalo, Marc Silvestri (each does 6 issues per year)
The Flash Writer: Peter David Artist: Chris Cross, Ivan Reiss (each does 6 issues per year)
Fantastic Four Writer: Peter Hogan Artist: Chris Sprouse (w/Karl Story) and Gary Frank (w/Cam Smith) (each does 6 issues per year)
Agents of Atlas Writer: Jeff Parker Artist: Leonard Kirk
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 3:30 am |
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:38 am |
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Hanzo the Razor wrote: That's a interesting choice for creative teams. Anyone past 1980 that you like creatively, Mark? You did see everyone's love artist, JRjr, right? Most of them post 1980 aren't reliable enough. I love Frank Cho's, Bill Willingham's, Mark Buckingham's, Ethan Van Sciver's, Greg Horn's, and some other's art, but most of the more recent artists depend on good colorists. For writers, Dan Slott, Jeff Parker, Bill Willingham, Neil Gaimen, Geoff Johns, Mark Waid, Bill Messner, and a few others. No, I like some of the more recent creators, but their stuff doesn't have the energy that the old artists had.
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:44 am |
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Kevin wrote: I figure that the "Secret Wars on Infinite Earths" must involve a little time-twisting, so let's make this interesting.  The Doom Patrol- Robotman, The Chief, Elasti-Girl, Negative Man The Power Pack- Alex, Jack, Julie and Katie Power Batgirl (Barbara Gordon) Supergirl (Kara Zor-El aka "Linda Danvers") Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) Green Lantern (John Stewart) Captain America (Steve Rogers) The Thing (Ben Grimm) Spider-Girl (May Parker) Phoenix (Jean Grey) Damn! THAT'S GREAT! 
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:55 am |
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Li'l Jay wrote: In rough order of primacy, first individuals, then groups:
Superman -- the first superhero Batman -- the first regular human to don a superhero costumre and assume a secret identity Spider-man -- the prototypical "teenage werewolf" hero -- young and limited in power. Green Lantern -- space ranger, protector of earth sector Captain America -- symbol of our country Iron Man -- need a Shieldy technology guy The Vision -- need an android in there, to constantly question readers about what it really means to be human Captain Marvel (Billy Batson) -- there needs to be another Superman with the magical angle, and with young Billy Hulk -- got to have the force of nature, uncontrollable, maybe a good guy She-Flash -- in the morphing of realities, the Scarlet Speedster survives, but as the Most Powerful Woman Superhero -- this "speed" counterpart to Superman has always been a better opportunity, in my view, to have a graspable female counterpart to Superman. Make him more powerful and stronger, but she's faster. And zippy speed is something that fits well with the female archetype, better than blunt force.
Fantastic Four -- the "family" team with the most brilliant scientist, strong hulk type, flier, force fields. Doom Patrol -- the "weird" group serves a purpose. Replace Doom Patrol with Teen Titans, and I like Jay's choices very much.
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Hanzo the Razor
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:14 am |
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Ocean did a very smart and realistic thing by having artist who aren't reliable band together to get out 12 issues a year. I'll modify by own list then--
Spider-Man will be drawn by Steve Rude, Joe Madureira and Steve McNiven.
Superman will be drawn by both Mike Allred and Frank Quitely.
Iron Man will be by Jim Lee and the current Invincible Iron Man artist (can't think of his name).
Supergirl will be by J. Scott Campbell and Adam Warren
Batgirl will be by Frank Cho, Adam Hughes and the artist who drew Kevin Smith's Black Cat mini (drawing another blank).
And replace Tim Sale on Batman with John Romita JR. (can't believe I forgot my favorite Marvel artist!).
Tim Sale will alternate with Sprouse on the Captain Marvel Family.
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:20 am |
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Post subject: There Can Be Only Ten. (Combining Marvel & DC) Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 8:27 pm |
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Ooh... Steve Rude is awesome. Terry Dodson did the Spider-Man/Black Cat miniseries, as well as Wonder Woman and is a current artist on X-Men. J. Scott Campbell's art is awesome, when we get it. He just doesn't come out with much at a time.
Oh, and Chris Sprouse has an awesome history of art, so I would love to see his take on the Marvel Family.
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