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 Post subject: The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles black and white boom in the '80s
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:59 am 
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Yes, I got the Turtles before they broke big. I was taken by a full page ad in CBG advertising a Titans/Elektra/X-Men spoof. I've got first printings of the bw comics, but TMNT quickly became a parody of itself and a lot of crummy product followed in its wake:

Here are the memorable titles that I will never forget for as long as I live:

Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters (people speculated in this dreck)
Pre-teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos


...help, I've forgotten most of those crummy comics!

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:52 am 
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Dynamite have got new Hamsters stuff coming out.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:13 am 
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I'm writing an essay on the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:48 am 
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GoogaMooga wrote:
Yes, I got the Turtles before they broke big. I was taken by a full page ad in CBG advertising a Titans/Elektra/X-Men spoof. I've got first printings of the bw comics, but TMNT quickly became a parody of itself and a lot of crummy product followed in its wake:

Here are the memorable titles that I will never forget for as long as I live:

Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters (people speculated in this dreck)
Pre-teen Dirty Gene Kung Fu Kangaroos


...help, I've forgotten most of those crummy comics!


I had those issues, too! There was a great one where they met Jack Kirby. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:27 am 
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I've seen something somewhere about Geriatric Kung-Fu Gophers.

During the 1980s I didn't live near any place where you could get indy comics, so I missed out on the great black-and-white explosion. For the most part I don't get the impression I was missing much.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 10:28 am 
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The early comics are on the official Ninja Turtle website if you wanna give them a read.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:08 am 
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Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters (people speculated in this dreck)

Dreck? They were great fun! I still have mine.

Also cool was Fish Police. I loved Fish Police.


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I have (with the exception of issue No. 1), all of the original b&w TMNT issues. I agree, after they hit big (dare I say they sold out?) they became utter shit. And speaking of writing papers about them, when I was in college I had to take a writing class for my history major. In it we had to use "primary sources". I had a genius idea of using the original comics as my "primary sources" for the history of the TMNT. I then defined a fad using (ha-ha) scholarly sources, and analyzed whether TMNT were indeed a true fad. Anyway, I got an "A" and the professor made a big deal about it. I like to think of it as my own Kirk-Kobayashi Maru moment.

I had the Hamster comic. It sucked and I never sought out the other rip-offs. I find people are doing the same now with the success of Mouse Guard, with lame rip-offs.

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The early comics are on the official Ninja Turtle website if you wanna give them a read.


I've got the First Comics trade of the early issues colorized. I've heard that even that trade is now hard to find.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:43 pm 
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Eric W.H. Taft wrote:
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Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters (people speculated in this dreck)

Dreck? They were great fun! I still have mine.

Also cool was Fish Police. I loved Fish Police.


Okay, I confess, that remark was just me echoing the critical consensus of that time. I don't remember buying any of the copycat titles myself, but it seems Nagoo agrees with the critical sentiment of that period. I remember Fish Police, that got better reviews.

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Oh, don't get me wrong, the Hamsters DID kind of suck and were indeed an obvious ripoff -- but they were so shameless, so shamelessly goofy and so knowingly bad that I liked 'em.

Fish Police was a genuinely good comic, as I recall. In fact, I'm pretty sure it later moved to the Epic imprint. Now that I think about it, it may even have gotten a cartoon.


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It was a cartoon!

Neat. And Sam Keith inked those early issues. Also neat.


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GoogaMooga wrote:
Eric W.H. Taft wrote:
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Adolescent Radioactive Black Belt Hamsters (people speculated in this dreck)

Dreck? They were great fun! I still have mine.

Also cool was Fish Police. I loved Fish Police.


Okay, I confess, that remark was just me echoing the critical consensus of that time. I don't remember buying any of the copycat titles myself, but it seems Nagoo agrees with the critical sentiment of that period. I remember Fish Police, that got better reviews.


In fact, let me rephrase that, it was me echoing the critical sentiment, I don't remember how many reviews I read.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:58 pm 
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Oh yeah, I remember the silly TMNT parody comics (parodies of a parody!). There was Geriatric Gangrene Jiujitsu Gerbils and Mildly Microwaved Pre-pubescent Kung-Fu Gophers, among others. I can't remember more than the Dirty Geen Kangaroos and the Black-belt Hamsters, but I think there were a few more along those lines.

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Oh yes, the Gerbils and the Gophers, how could I forget such high lit? And how about The Dark Gnat?

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I liked the Gerbils. They were stupid, but fun. I think they fought a giant sumo wrestler.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 10:53 am 
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There were the "Naive Inter-dimensional Commando Koalas", as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:02 pm 
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I never got into the Turtles or related Commando/Blackbelt/Radioactive/Transgendered critters, but jeez, I bought a lot of shit back then.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:52 pm 
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GoogaMooga wrote:
Oh yes, the Gerbils and the Gophers, how could I forget such high lit? And how about The Dark Gnat?


You mean the Gnatrat? Yeah, I actually kinda liked that.

GoogaMooga mentioned this one:

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This wasn't just a parody of TMNT but also a parody of American Flagg, too.

And another:

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And another:

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And another:

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And some others here:

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Of course, the proliferation of all this stuff led to this:

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Wherein Boris slaughters characters who appear similar to Cerebus, Usagi Yojimbo, TMNT, the Hamsters, the Chameleon Commandos, and others (even Ambush Bug, too).


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:56 pm 
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Mark wrote:
It's all before my time.


I just started elementary school around the time these things were published and wouldn't have known what a comic shop was yet, much less known about the TMNT (until their cartoon debuted).


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