For anyone who hasn't seen it yet, here is the trailer:



okay, call me an idiot if you like, but I kinda liked it! I don't know what this movie is that so many other people seem to be slamming left and right, but so far, this one looks kinda cool.

There is a bit of a Flash Gordon vibe going on (the movie, not the old serials or strips), but I find it kinda works. The series was a bit of an off-beat concept anyway, way more like straight-up (or tongue-in-cheek) sci-fi than normal superheroics, so giving it that kind of a visual twist seems, to me, interesting.

Now, sure, this isn't the nine-feet-wide-at-the-shoulders Thing that we all love, but he is much more like the character looked in the first few issues of the series. And I was seriously against this smaller, slimmer look originally. But, between the earlier promo flick and this trailer, I'm really starting to warm to the look.

The bit of Reeds' stretching isn't nearly as bad as I'd heard (over and over and over and...); hopefully, some of the later fx in the movie will look a bit better, but I saw nothing really jump out at me as being particularily bad about it.

The trailer got me more interested in the movie (without giving away huge amounts of the plot and story arc, like the second Spider-Man 2 trailer did), and I guess that means it did its job.

Go ahead, throw stuff at me if you like. I still like it

I like it too.

Hmmm... better than I expected (but then, trailers usually are). Definitely NOT my FF, but might be okay for Hollywood's FF.

I have no problem with the movies changing this and that from the original source as long as it is logical. The movies should stand on their own. What bugs me is the movie stuff that gets inserted into the comics (i.e. the look/rendition of characters, costumes, and things like bio-web spinners or, in this case, bio-armour).

I don't like it becuase the potential was there nd they had to get cute with the origin and Doom etc.

And I'm not crazy about the casting either.

I also enjoyed it...I had low expectations for this one plus im not a big FF fan...but the preview got me pumped.

Cool effects on the torch, reed, etc...nice space scenes...very epic. I still think people will walk away saying Incredibles was better...BUT im actually going to see it now based on the strength of the trailer (i was gonna skip it and see it on DVD)...maybe we'll be pleasantly surprised.

I thought it looked good so far as well. It's funny but with there being about three different versions of Spidey and the F.F. and other characters spread out all over the comic world, it's getting a lot easier to see yet ANOTHER version spring up on screen. Since i enjoyed Spider-Man 1 and 2 SO much even WITH the incorrect web-shooters, I guess I can breeze into the F.F. and keep an open mind. I might love it in spite of myself. They're going to get Doom wrong right from the start so I'm hoping they'll give us an excellent villain and a great movie to boot. It won't be my Lee/Kirby Doom, or my Byrne Doom, it THANKFULLY won't be the Waid Doom (hopefully), it might be closer to the Ultimate Doom, blah blah, blah. At this point, I'm hoping for wonderfully villainous Doom. the F.F. themselves look really good to me, almost right out of issue 3 and that I'll take. Blue and black outfits! Powers are right!

I wonder if Ultimate Doom was born in Hollywood and basically Arad told bendis to "create" him in the Ultimate FF comic or did the Hollywood guys like the Ultimate comic version better and chose him for the movie???

Any thoughts?

There are even some scenes in the Elektra movie that are taken out of recent Elektra comics (by Rodi and Chen) and I wonder who inspired who? I can totally see Arad asking for parts of the script to make it into comics...

A conspiracy is afoot...!

I think the guys at Marvel Comics read the script for the movie and then created Ultimate Doom to match it. Which is pretty gutless, in my opinion, if true.

Marvel Gutless? Nah!!!!!

I agree...although its does cut down on the few months wait we would have after the movie to when they would just change him anyway.

Are you being sarcastic?

I find the comics division changing things like Doom's bio-armor or Spidey's bio-webspinners to be hugely cowardly. They're willing to change decades of hard-won storytelling to placate an audience that will never, ever read those comics (the Ultimate thing is a little less offensive to me).

Would all this be covered by the old saying "the tail leading the horse"?

It looked better than I thought. My kids want to see it. I am concerned about Doom and am not crazy for Jessica Alba but I like the Thing being smaller it makes his feats of strength more incredible. (Ooops! not a good word to use regarding FF: the movie

Me Sarcastic? Nah!!!!


The folks running Marvel Comics haven't got many clues among them to begin with, so when the films come up with something that works in the context of the film - like black leather X-Men costumes - they hop on that thing like a two-bit whore on an Atlantic City high roller.

I don't know if it is being gutless or just the fact that they are all creatively bankrupt and can't tell a good idea from a bad one. They surely have shown that they don't care for or don't understand their core characters and what has kept them so popular for so long. They run their division like a crap game. If good writing talent shows up who does care and understand then they put out good books, if the talent doesn't care or understand they put out bad books. The Marvel Editorial staff are little more than spell checkers.

what can I say? BINGO! The prevailing attitude these days, let anybody fuck with the characters as much as they want, as long as they're big names. Grab the dollar. DC's starting to follow suit with the All-stars (Ultimate) bit. sad sad sad.

I have to agree with Brendan or am I the only one who thinks that Tony Stark looks alot like Tom Cruise?

Yes...he does...they are probably going to be showing these issues to Cruise or his agent to try to convince him to take the role.

Your right...I just noticed the Iron Man/Cruise connection...Im curious if the big boys at marvel tell the penciller what they expect in terms of movie likenesses, etc...

Millar also did this with WANTED... specifically made the main character look like Eminem in hopes of getting Slim Shady into the movie version. I think I'm one of the only movie people I know who wants to work in comics, rather than the other way around! (Geoff Johns is also one who's made the "backwards" leap.)

Plus you have Samuel L.Jackson as Nick Fury over in the Ultimates.

Lets not forget that old comics used to do this as well - isnt Captain Marvel done in the likeness of Fred MacMurray (my 3 sons)?

Yes, but not with the intention of having him play Cap in a future film. Sivana Jr.'s look was based on Danny Kaye, by the way.